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I recently had to go to America for a wedding, due to these types of policies I always go through my phone and clean almost everything out of there. Photos, lo

I recently had to go to America for a wedding, due to these types of policies I always go through my phone and clean almost everything out of there. Photos, logout of Google, clean up downloads, etc. I don't have anything to hide, however having some random customs dude go into Google Photos which has over a decade of my life documented doesn't seem exactly ideal.

the_snooze 8y ago
"I have nothing to hide" is just another way of saying "My friends and family are stupid for trusting me." Your devices don't just contain information that's sensitive to you.
- coldtea 8y ago
  And even he has lots of things to hide, he just doesn't know it. If he didn't he'd made his emails and all photos and file public.
- woofcat 8y ago
  Yeah I think you really misunderstood my post. I was simply saying, I don't have photos of me doing lines of Cocaine off strippers. However I'm still concerned about the boarder patrol looking through my shit. Holy fuck HN can sometimes go off on a tangent.
pavel_lishin 8y ago
People who have nothing to hide still shut their bathroom door. And besides, laws change. I have nothing to hide today; who knows in three months?
- DougN7 8y ago
  This is exactly right. The Jews in Germany probably thought they had nothing to hide before the Nazis came to power.
  - reitanqild 8y ago
    As someone who grew up in a "nothing to to hide - nothing to fear" environment this is what I realized as I grew older as well. Another more recent example: I guess those who opposed Erdogan a few years ago aren't too comfortable now. Short summary: even if you have reason to trust the police department to not abuse your data (I like the local police around here), do you also: - trust everyone of them not to snoop around? - trust every contractor and sysadmin now and in the future? - In a time where giant data leaks occurs multiple times a year, do you trust authorities to always be patched and vigilant? - all this is before we start talking about 3 letter agency stuff, neighboring nations that have a bad habit of invading others etc. Edit: fixed a number of spelling mistakes etc.
DoreenMichele 8y ago
While I generally agree with some of the sentiments expressed here -- such as "People who have nothing to hide still shut their bathroom door." -- maybe we could lighten up and not pile onto this comment, given that it is on the side of not really wanting to give over this info and having cleaned out the phone recently, etc. Focusing entirely on that one phrase -- I have nothing to hide -- twists the meaning intended, I think, especially given the manner in which it is being done here.
- CodeMage 8y ago
  It's just that a lot of us believe that we should educate people who think privacy has anything to do with whether you have anything to hide.
  - DoreenMichele 8y ago
    That can be done without unnecessarily vilifying people and turning it into a beat down.
    - Avamander 8y ago
      Can you please elaborate why it's unnecessary to beat down attempts at compromising my privacy among other people's?
      - DoreenMichele 8y ago
        It is possible to attack the idea without inadvertently attacking the person. All it would take is acknowledgement that he didn't intend it that way before noting "But it can go thus and such bad places." You can espouse a zero tolerance policy for the idea of "I have nothing to hide" without making it a dreadful experience for the person who made the mistake of using that particular phrase while explaining why you think it is critical to try to kill off the phrase for all eternity.

the_snooze 8y ago

"I have nothing to hide" is just another way of saying "My friends and family are stupid for trusting me." Your devices don't just contain information that's sensitive to you.

coldtea 8y ago
And even he has lots of things to hide, he just doesn't know it. If he didn't he'd made his emails and all photos and file public.
woofcat 8y ago
Yeah I think you really misunderstood my post. I was simply saying, I don't have photos of me doing lines of Cocaine off strippers. However I'm still concerned about the boarder patrol looking through my shit. Holy fuck HN can sometimes go off on a tangent.

pavel_lishin 8y ago

People who have nothing to hide still shut their bathroom door. And besides, laws change. I have nothing to hide today; who knows in three months?

DougN7 8y ago
This is exactly right. The Jews in Germany probably thought they had nothing to hide before the Nazis came to power.
- reitanqild 8y ago
  As someone who grew up in a "nothing to to hide - nothing to fear" environment this is what I realized as I grew older as well. Another more recent example: I guess those who opposed Erdogan a few years ago aren't too comfortable now. Short summary: even if you have reason to trust the police department to not abuse your data (I like the local police around here), do you also: - trust everyone of them not to snoop around? - trust every contractor and sysadmin now and in the future? - In a time where giant data leaks occurs multiple times a year, do you trust authorities to always be patched and vigilant? - all this is before we start talking about 3 letter agency stuff, neighboring nations that have a bad habit of invading others etc. Edit: fixed a number of spelling mistakes etc.

DoreenMichele 8y ago

While I generally agree with some of the sentiments expressed here -- such as "People who have nothing to hide still shut their bathroom door." -- maybe we could lighten up and not pile onto this comment, given that it is on the side of not really wanting to give over this info and having cleaned out the phone recently, etc. Focusing entirely on that one phrase -- I have nothing to hide -- twists the meaning intended, I think, especially given the manner in which it is being done here.

CodeMage 8y ago
It's just that a lot of us believe that we should educate people who think privacy has anything to do with whether you have anything to hide.
- DoreenMichele 8y ago
  That can be done without unnecessarily vilifying people and turning it into a beat down.
  - Avamander 8y ago
    Can you please elaborate why it's unnecessary to beat down attempts at compromising my privacy among other people's?
    - DoreenMichele 8y ago
      It is possible to attack the idea without inadvertently attacking the person. All it would take is acknowledgement that he didn't intend it that way before noting "But it can go thus and such bad places." You can espouse a zero tolerance policy for the idea of "I have nothing to hide" without making it a dreadful experience for the person who made the mistake of using that particular phrase while explaining why you think it is critical to try to kill off the phrase for all eternity.