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To be very honest, I find the methodology very similar to what drug trafficker would do to hide their drugs. And I don't think this method will end well for all
by paradite 8y ago
To be very honest, I find the methodology very similar to what drug trafficker would do to hide their drugs. And I don't think this method will end well for all parties either way.
If it works, customs officers cannot find actual illegal contents, and criminals walk free through customs.
If customs officers somehow detects you are doing this, you risk obstructing security measures.
- Johnny555 8y agoDrug traffickers hide their drugs in an encrypted partition? No sane criminal would bring illegal electronic data with him on a physical device... He'll just download it when he gets there.
- mikeash 8y agoNo smart criminal would. There are lots of dumb criminals, though.
- AsyncAwait 8y agoYes, and am not willing to have my privacy violated for dumb criminals.
- mito88 8y agohttps://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/09/27/suspected_dark_web_druggie_cuffed/ https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/09/27/suspected_dark_web_...
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- yholio 8y agoBut that's true for all encryption and privacy technology, it has dual use. We as a society must find the right balance and say, ok, there's no reasonable justification for owning 1 pound of plutonium, but there is a legitimate case for high encryption and privacy. This forum largely believes that the balance struck by New Zealand - that you don't have the right to data privacy when traveling - is completely unacceptable, and as technologists we try to find technical countermeasures.
- paradite 8y agoLet me ask you this hypothetical question instead: What if we have a "physical encryption" technology that allows encrypting physical objects so that X-ray scanners, drug detecting methods or metal detectors cannot see through them? Would customs be allowed to ask for the decryption key? Or should the customs just ignore whatever encrypted inside?
- yholio 8y agoThere's no need to go to such wild hypotheticals if what you want to say is that you support border data searches - it's your right to have that political position. I simply have the opposite position. Given some hypothetical new technology with vast societal implications, I would be forced to carefully reconsider that position, but in this case I believe privacy is a basic human right that does not simply disappear at the borders.
- paradite 8y agoOf course I respect your opinions. I am just giving a thought experiment to introduce a different perspective and way of thinking. And I am more than happy to learn that you would re-consider your position given such hypothetical situation.
- firethief 8y agoCan we also download physical objects after we go through the checkpoint?
- paradite 8y agoYou can already "download guns". http://time.com/5344265/3d-printed-guns-legal/ http://time.com/5344265/3d-printed-guns-legal/ I would be surprised if that's not possible for drugs or explosives in 5-10 years. Edit: Looks like they are already possible or at least on the way: http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2018/01/you-could-soon-be-manufacturing-your-own-drugs-thanks-3d-printing http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2018/01/you-could-soon-be-man... https://all3dp.com/custom-shaped-explosives-us-navy-3d-printed-hp-3d-printers/ https://all3dp.com/custom-shaped-explosives-us-navy-3d-print...
- jessaustin 8y agoIf it works, customs officers cannot find actual illegal contents, and criminals walk free through customs. "Illegal contents", as in what? Unflattering cartoons of the president? A spreadsheet marked "cocaine delivery schedule"? Why is this on the alleged criminal's phone while she's crossing the border? Has she never heard of the internet? No real criminal could be caught by any of this buffoonery. Lots of normal people whom the state would like to harass will be harassed, while wasting a great deal of money, which is the point.
- reaperducer 8y agoUnflattering cartoons of the president? In Thailand, both tourists and locals can be severely punished for making fun of the King. (I'd Google some links, but I'm on a dialup-speed cellular connection right now. It shouldn't be hard to find, though.)
- mito88 8y agohttps://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/09/27/suspected_dark_web_druggie_cuffed/ https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/09/27/suspected_dark_web_... one big strong and noisy facepalm... :)
- jessaustin 8y agoHaha yeah Beard Man should have left his laptop at home. Still, they must have been pretty confident in the evidence they already had when they issued that arrest warrant.
- gwright 8y agohttps://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/turkish-president-appeals-ruling-german-insult-case-1020278 https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/turkish-president-app... Just another example of the different way in which speech/information is treated in different countries.
- angry_octet 8y agoReal criminals are caught by this all the time. A lot of these guys are scaping the bottom of the IQ barrel. But a lot of the agents will have MAGA hats in their car, so I probably wouldn't have unflattering Trump cartoons on my phone. Though I would love it if EVERYONE had 'fuck trump' as their phone background.
- reaperducer 8y agoTo be very honest, I find the methodology very similar to what drug trafficker would do to hide their drugs. It's a shame that people now have to guard their privacy like drugs.
- jtmcmc 8y agoit's a shame that people had to guard their drugs! and now their privacy!