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I don't know how others feel, but if I kept control of the device I would feel much more comfortable with this process. The fact that they can make me unlock th

by r1ch 8y ago

I don't know how others feel, but if I kept control of the device I would feel much more comfortable with this process. The fact that they can make me unlock the device then take it out of my sight and do unknown things to it means I can no longer trust the device or any of its files (eg private keys, access tokens, etc that may be stored on it). If they sit down with me and allow me to maintain control of the device while they ask to see recent chats and emails etc I would feel much more comfortable (though don't get me wrong, I still see the whole process as a huge overstep and invasion of privacy).

justtopost 8y ago
Oh yeah, being forced to knowingly show my privates to a stranger is slightly better than the stranger taking that look on their own without my knowledge and consent. Both are still bad.
- beart 8y ago
  I think this analogy is wrong. It is more like the difference between showing a stranger a picture of yourself naked vs handing the stranger a hard drive with naked pictures of yourself. In both cases, you know they are doing it but it is only in the former case where you can be slightly more informed of exactly what they are doing with that information.
- sib 8y ago
  The difference is that, if they take your phone away, there is nothing stopping them from putting child pornography (or terrorism plans, or a keylogger) on it without your knowledge.
capdeck 8y ago
But then it doesn't make any difference -- they'll tell you to do what they'll do anyway. And if you refuse -- the same punishment applies (fee, prison, etc...)
- BraveKenny 8y ago
  It does make a difference, though, in that at least you would know what was done with your device. (especially if you are the one actually handling the device) I can see plenty of those inspection scenarios where I would not want to crush my device into pieces afterwards. And plenty of others where I would. There lies the difference.

by r1ch 8y ago

justtopost 8y ago

Oh yeah, being forced to knowingly show my privates to a stranger is slightly better than the stranger taking that look on their own without my knowledge and consent. Both are still bad.

beart 8y ago
I think this analogy is wrong. It is more like the difference between showing a stranger a picture of yourself naked vs handing the stranger a hard drive with naked pictures of yourself. In both cases, you know they are doing it but it is only in the former case where you can be slightly more informed of exactly what they are doing with that information.
sib 8y ago
The difference is that, if they take your phone away, there is nothing stopping them from putting child pornography (or terrorism plans, or a keylogger) on it without your knowledge.

capdeck 8y ago

But then it doesn't make any difference -- they'll tell you to do what they'll do anyway. And if you refuse -- the same punishment applies (fee, prison, etc...)

BraveKenny 8y ago
It does make a difference, though, in that at least you would know what was done with your device. (especially if you are the one actually handling the device) I can see plenty of those inspection scenarios where I would not want to crush my device into pieces afterwards. And plenty of others where I would. There lies the difference.