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This is not a valid statement. Entering a country illegally is illegal immigration, as is overstaying one's VISA. Until they are granted legal entry, it's illeg

by JakeAl 8y ago

This is not a valid statement. Entering a country illegally is illegal immigration, as is overstaying one's VISA. Until they are granted legal entry, it's illegal entry, and they are illegal immigrants. The solution is simple, asylum should only be granted to those with a current legal status. If they enter illegally, they get sent back to their country of origin where they must get in line with all of the others applying. There's a backlog in applications (400K+), but it's because of all of the people jumping the line which interferes with the quotas set for legal immigrants and clogs the system.

TheCoelacanth 8y ago
The US is obliged by treaty not to do that. The US ratified the UN Convention and Protocol Related to the Status of Refugees which requires that the US not punish people who cross the border without authorization for the purpose of seeking asylum.
learc83 8y ago
> here they must get in line with all of the others applying For most people there is no line to get in. There is a line for close family of US citizens [1]. Employment visas for people with specific occupations, visas for exceptional people, investors etc... The only thing that the vast majority of people could qualify for is the diversity visa--50k are awarded each year. But you don't qualify if you come from a country that sent more than 50k immigrants to the US within the last year (most large countries). There are also 30k a year admitted under refuge programs as well, but most people won't qualify for that either. If you are accepted you need to make 1.5x the Federal Poverty level (other than refugees), pass a background check and a civil surgeons exam. >but it's because of all of the people jumping the line which interferes with the quotas set for legal immigrants and clogs the system People "jumping in line" (I assume you mean entering without authorization or overstaying visas) has nothing to do with how long you have to "wait in line" because there is no line for most people to wait in, and people who are waiting in some kind of line aren't held back by people breaking immigration laws. 1. Spouses, parents and children. Siblings also qualify but the wait is extremely long for most people--up to 20 years for people countries with a lot of immigrants to the US.

by JakeAl 8y ago

TheCoelacanth 8y ago

The US is obliged by treaty not to do that. The US ratified the UN Convention and Protocol Related to the Status of Refugees which requires that the US not punish people who cross the border without authorization for the purpose of seeking asylum.

learc83 8y ago

> here they must get in line with all of the others applying For most people there is no line to get in. There is a line for close family of US citizens [1]. Employment visas for people with specific occupations, visas for exceptional people, investors etc... The only thing that the vast majority of people could qualify for is the diversity visa--50k are awarded each year. But you don't qualify if you come from a country that sent more than 50k immigrants to the US within the last year (most large countries). There are also 30k a year admitted under refuge programs as well, but most people won't qualify for that either. If you are accepted you need to make 1.5x the Federal Poverty level (other than refugees), pass a background check and a civil surgeons exam. >but it's because of all of the people jumping the line which interferes with the quotas set for legal immigrants and clogs the system People "jumping in line" (I assume you mean entering without authorization or overstaying visas) has nothing to do with how long you have to "wait in line" because there is no line for most people to wait in, and people who are waiting in some kind of line aren't held back by people breaking immigration laws. 1. Spouses, parents and children. Siblings also qualify but the wait is extremely long for most people--up to 20 years for people countries with a lot of immigrants to the US.