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How many years of debugging the manual system for flaws, how many security bugs have been fixed already? The paper system has been tried and tested for many man

by Moru 8y ago

How many years of debugging the manual system for flaws, how many security bugs have been fixed already? The paper system has been tried and tested for many many years and we all agree that it's working and is secure. Why do we want to throw this out for having live results? Is it about saving money? How much do we save if something goes wrong? Both systems can be broken by propaganda anyway. That one is also well tested.

ataturk 8y ago
The paper system is not "working and secure." Witness the election of Al Franken in MN and how trunkloads of hitherto unknown ballots arrived just in time to tip the scales in his favor. Realize that such an occurrence happens with alarming frequency in many lesser elections around the US. Left or right, doesn't matter--I demand a better voting system first and foremost, one with with ID checks as well as fraud prevention mechanisms that are taken seriously. BTW, my sister-in-law's first job as a prosecutor was to try voter fraud cases because that's the shit work they give to newbies. Voter fraud cases are the lowest priority type of cases in the county I reside in. Also, she was given two cases and failed to prosecute either one even though both parties were guilty as hell and had voted multiple times in the 2012 election. It could not be more clear what is going on and who is behind it all, but nobody wants to fix it because it would expose all kinds of other wrongdoing and it would call into question the integrity of the entire system. Can't have that! It's just like when Americans lived under the British Crown--all manner of corruption and wrongdoing was swept under the rug for reasons of incompetence, covering for "old boys" in the network, or just because an aura of perfection had to be created so that the huddling masses would not rebel. Here's the truth: The US needs to get rid of its autocrats and oligarchs and restore the power to the people.
empath75 8y ago
> Why do we want to throw this out for having live results? The supposed impetus for the change was the hanging chads controversy in florida in 2000.

by Moru 8y ago

ataturk 8y ago

The paper system is not "working and secure." Witness the election of Al Franken in MN and how trunkloads of hitherto unknown ballots arrived just in time to tip the scales in his favor. Realize that such an occurrence happens with alarming frequency in many lesser elections around the US. Left or right, doesn't matter--I demand a better voting system first and foremost, one with with ID checks as well as fraud prevention mechanisms that are taken seriously. BTW, my sister-in-law's first job as a prosecutor was to try voter fraud cases because that's the shit work they give to newbies. Voter fraud cases are the lowest priority type of cases in the county I reside in. Also, she was given two cases and failed to prosecute either one even though both parties were guilty as hell and had voted multiple times in the 2012 election. It could not be more clear what is going on and who is behind it all, but nobody wants to fix it because it would expose all kinds of other wrongdoing and it would call into question the integrity of the entire system. Can't have that! It's just like when Americans lived under the British Crown--all manner of corruption and wrongdoing was swept under the rug for reasons of incompetence, covering for "old boys" in the network, or just because an aura of perfection had to be created so that the huddling masses would not rebel. Here's the truth: The US needs to get rid of its autocrats and oligarchs and restore the power to the people.

empath75 8y ago

> Why do we want to throw this out for having live results? The supposed impetus for the change was the hanging chads controversy in florida in 2000.