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"Project Atlas will connect the BitTorrent peer-to-peer network and the TRON blockchain network via a set of bittorrent protocol extensions, a custom token, and

"Project Atlas will connect the BitTorrent peer-to-peer network and the TRON blockchain network via a set of bittorrent protocol extensions, a custom token, and an in-client token economy to address existing limitations and open a new borderless economy for exchanging value for computer resources on a global scale." How did we get to the point where words simply don't mean anything anymore?

bryanrasmussen 8y ago
by paying exorbitant amounts for bullshit.
PurpleRamen 8y ago
Now you know how the average person feels when reading something nerdy. Just say they twisted some magic streams and marshmallow-man happend.
- TeMPOraL 8y ago
  Yes and no. I think even an average Joe or Jane will quickly notice that "nerdy words" usually have pretty specific (if complex) meanings, whereas this... this is just mostly line noise.
- r3bl 8y ago
  You can learn the nerdy things and understand what you're reading. No amount of learning will lead you to understanding bullshit like this.
joeblau 8y ago
The video[1] does sliglty a lot better job of explaining what's going on. [1] - https://youtu.be/n_BA8tUlRLA?t=63 https://youtu.be/n_BA8tUlRLA?t=63
snaky 8y ago
You mean proactive award winning innovative solutions leveraging state of the art leading technologies don't engage with industry standard customer expectations on value proposition, or what?
- schoenobates 8y ago
  Needs more "disruptive"
- berbec 8y ago
  I paradigmed in my pants.
- SpecialistEMT 8y ago
  What you said also doesn't mean anything.
Erlich_Bachman 8y ago
This specific line is not a good example of meaningless words. It makes intelligible comprehensible sense and describes the project well. What problem do you have with it? "Project Atlas will connect the BitTorrent peer-to-peer network [the existing network, utilizing the existing BitTorrent protocol] and the TRON blockchain network [TRON blockchain exists, it's a separate project, look it up] via a set of bittorrent protocol extensions, a custom token [not the TRON token itself, but a sub-token used for the purposes of project Atlas specifically], and an in-client [the functionality will be built-in into the BitTorrent client, the users will not have to use any extra software or web platform] token economy [economic system where tokens are used as means of transfer of value] to address existing limitations [rare torrents becoming hard to find seeds for, fakes, etc..] and open a new borderless [global, not contained within a single country or economic region of the world, users from any countries will be able to participate] economy for exchanging value [Atlas tokens, maybe other cryptos through exchanges] for computer resources [storage space and bandwidth used to store and distribute a torrent file] on a global scale."
- snaky 8y ago
  "There is a problem with torrents - nobody want to seed. Let's create new coin - using TRON blockchain - to reward seeders automatically" would be the same, but with no bullshit.
  - RL_Quine 8y ago
    Making it a better sentence is possible, making the system itself exist in the real world much less so. You can't make systems like this as described due to the reality that all decentralized systems face; the sybil problem, and by extension all the problems that occur when people try to solve that with a web of trust.
    - Erlich_Bachman 8y ago
      Why does it work in Bitcoin and other PoW blockchains?
msravi 8y ago
Ok, I'll bite. ...will connect the BitTorrent peer-to-peer network and the TRON blockchain network => BitTorrent will start accepting "coins" a custom token => a new "coin" an in-client token economy => the "coin" will only be valid for downloading torrents to address existing limitations => too many leechers, not enough seeders and open a new borderless economy => will be valid across nation-state boundaries for exchanging value for computer resources => bandwidth and storage Translation: BitTorrent will start accepting a new type of "coin" that will only be valid within the BitTorrent network to allow leechers to pay seeders to download files.
- badge 8y ago
  Do the seeders generate the coins specific to each torrent, or is this some sort of scam where coins are made by TRON and users now have to pay for what's already free..?
  - msravi 8y ago
    I have no clue! That said, from the website: > Users can earn tokens for continuing to seed files after a download is complete > Users who participate will exchange tokens with each other on the basis of resources provided, not mining Seems like you get paid when you seed, and you can use what you earned to download other stuff. How's the initial money generated? No idea. Maybe you've to buy the tokens for real $$$ or bitcoins or something. Or maybe you can choose to host a file and gather tokens.
scotty79 8y ago
Wait. Howcome I understood every word of that, got the meaning and even the author's intention?
- fabricexpert 8y ago
  Explain what it means then, without using any blockchain buzzwords (decentralized, web of trust, proof of work etc.)
  - MrEldritch 8y ago
    "Gee, wouldn't it be nice if leechers could pay seeders instead of just leeching? There's a lot of hype right now about a tech that's supposedly good for building various kinds of Magic Internet Money; maybe we could integrate some form of that." ("decentralized" at least actually means something here - BitTorrent is already a decentralized protocol, there are no central BitTorrent servers that coordinate things. So anything that would be properly integrated with BitTorrent would have to be decentralized somehow.)

bryanrasmussen 8y ago

by paying exorbitant amounts for bullshit.

PurpleRamen 8y ago

Now you know how the average person feels when reading something nerdy. Just say they twisted some magic streams and marshmallow-man happend.

TeMPOraL 8y ago
Yes and no. I think even an average Joe or Jane will quickly notice that "nerdy words" usually have pretty specific (if complex) meanings, whereas this... this is just mostly line noise.
r3bl 8y ago
You can learn the nerdy things and understand what you're reading. No amount of learning will lead you to understanding bullshit like this.

joeblau 8y ago

The video[1] does sliglty a lot better job of explaining what's going on. [1] - https://youtu.be/n_BA8tUlRLA?t=63 https://youtu.be/n_BA8tUlRLA?t=63

snaky 8y ago

You mean proactive award winning innovative solutions leveraging state of the art leading technologies don't engage with industry standard customer expectations on value proposition, or what?

schoenobates 8y ago
Needs more "disruptive"
berbec 8y ago
I paradigmed in my pants.
SpecialistEMT 8y ago
What you said also doesn't mean anything.

Erlich_Bachman 8y ago

This specific line is not a good example of meaningless words. It makes intelligible comprehensible sense and describes the project well. What problem do you have with it? "Project Atlas will connect the BitTorrent peer-to-peer network [the existing network, utilizing the existing BitTorrent protocol] and the TRON blockchain network [TRON blockchain exists, it's a separate project, look it up] via a set of bittorrent protocol extensions, a custom token [not the TRON token itself, but a sub-token used for the purposes of project Atlas specifically], and an in-client [the functionality will be built-in into the BitTorrent client, the users will not have to use any extra software or web platform] token economy [economic system where tokens are used as means of transfer of value] to address existing limitations [rare torrents becoming hard to find seeds for, fakes, etc..] and open a new borderless [global, not contained within a single country or economic region of the world, users from any countries will be able to participate] economy for exchanging value [Atlas tokens, maybe other cryptos through exchanges] for computer resources [storage space and bandwidth used to store and distribute a torrent file] on a global scale."

snaky 8y ago
"There is a problem with torrents - nobody want to seed. Let's create new coin - using TRON blockchain - to reward seeders automatically" would be the same, but with no bullshit.
- RL_Quine 8y ago
  Making it a better sentence is possible, making the system itself exist in the real world much less so. You can't make systems like this as described due to the reality that all decentralized systems face; the sybil problem, and by extension all the problems that occur when people try to solve that with a web of trust.
  - Erlich_Bachman 8y ago
    Why does it work in Bitcoin and other PoW blockchains?

msravi 8y ago

Ok, I'll bite. ...will connect the BitTorrent peer-to-peer network and the TRON blockchain network => BitTorrent will start accepting "coins" a custom token => a new "coin" an in-client token economy => the "coin" will only be valid for downloading torrents to address existing limitations => too many leechers, not enough seeders and open a new borderless economy => will be valid across nation-state boundaries for exchanging value for computer resources => bandwidth and storage Translation: BitTorrent will start accepting a new type of "coin" that will only be valid within the BitTorrent network to allow leechers to pay seeders to download files.

badge 8y ago
Do the seeders generate the coins specific to each torrent, or is this some sort of scam where coins are made by TRON and users now have to pay for what's already free..?
- msravi 8y ago
  I have no clue! That said, from the website: > Users can earn tokens for continuing to seed files after a download is complete > Users who participate will exchange tokens with each other on the basis of resources provided, not mining Seems like you get paid when you seed, and you can use what you earned to download other stuff. How's the initial money generated? No idea. Maybe you've to buy the tokens for real $$$ or bitcoins or something. Or maybe you can choose to host a file and gather tokens.

scotty79 8y ago

Wait. Howcome I understood every word of that, got the meaning and even the author's intention?

fabricexpert 8y ago
Explain what it means then, without using any blockchain buzzwords (decentralized, web of trust, proof of work etc.)
- MrEldritch 8y ago
  "Gee, wouldn't it be nice if leechers could pay seeders instead of just leeching? There's a lot of hype right now about a tech that's supposedly good for building various kinds of Magic Internet Money; maybe we could integrate some form of that." ("decentralized" at least actually means something here - BitTorrent is already a decentralized protocol, there are no central BitTorrent servers that coordinate things. So anything that would be properly integrated with BitTorrent would have to be decentralized somehow.)