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The last time I compared Magic Leap to Theranos I was downvoted to -4 (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16713546 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=167135
by cm2012 8y ago
The last time I compared Magic Leap to Theranos I was downvoted to -4 (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16713546 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16713546). It's interesting to see people's reasoning back then vs the product now, 6 months later.
- gkoberger 8y agoThere's a huge difference between a highly funded startup that is trying to build something completely revolutionary and hasn't quite gotten there yet, and a company actively and knowingly engaging in fraud in the medical space. Nobody is going to die because of Magic Leap.
- manigandham 8y ago> highly funded startup that is trying to build something completely revolutionary and hasn't quite gotten there yet That's exactly what Theranos was, until it wasn't.
- gkoberger 8y agoSure, but so far Magic Leap hasn't done anything illegal or unethical or immoral... they've just been a bit behind schedule. They also aren't in the medical space. Nobody is going to die because of them.
- cm2012 8y agoWith all of their secrecy, you have no idea if they're being unethical or not. Their marketing materials are certainly nothing near reality.
- threeseed 8y agoYou're being completely disingenuous. Magic Leap is a glorified toy. It is not going to affect your life.
- pavlov 8y agoI’d agree otherwise, but the article mentions that Magic Leap is bidding for a $500M military contract. Putting these toy lenses on soldiers can get people killed — both the fighters themselves as well as civilians are at risk from these digital goggles that block 86% of incoming light unless the AR graphics can do something really, really useful in the battlefield.
- jobigoud 8y agoI doubt it's for the battlefield. More likely for planning, where you'd have a briefing with several people around a tabletop projection of the ground scene and AR tanks and characters moving around.
- jtbayly 8y agoFTA: “for use with troops in the field (as opposed to training).” Not quite clear either way. You could still be right, but the implication seems to be otherwise.
- darkerside 8y agoUntil they start faking results to the DoD, the analogy falls completely flat
- bryanrasmussen 8y agoI wonder what legal repercussions one would be open to for faking results to DoD.
- UpshotKnothole 8y agoIf the F35 is an example, I’d say a trillion dollar, ten year contract?
- maxxxxx 8y agoThe Theranos board is looking for work and just the right people to move such a deal forward :)
- _pmf_ 8y ago> That's exactly what Theranos was, until it wasn't. You conveniently skipped the part where Magic Leap isn't actively engaging in medical fraud.
- threeseed 8y agoYou deserved to be downvoted for that because (a) it's a baseless accusation and (b) it was intellectually lazy. Theranos committed crimes and their fraudulent behaviour directly impacted on people's lives. There is no evidence Magic Leap has done either and there is nothing illegal or immoral about pivoting on your product.
- jjeaff 8y agoI agree with what you said, except, is making big promises then not delivering really "pivoting"?
- skrebbel 8y agoYes.
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- skrebbel 8y agoI got downvotes,which is fair because my comment was stupid because I didn't read the comments I was replying to carefully enough. I missed the "delete" deadline so sorry about the baseless noise. Of course delivering shitty results isn't pivoting.
- mrhappyunhappy 8y agoOf topic: who cares if you get upvotes or downvotes? Do people actually care what others think of their comments? Please, state the unpopular opinion however brashly you choose.
- falsedan 8y agoI see karma as a bank for paying for incredibly trashy comments: for every upvote I vow to write at least one thoughtless hot take and defend it to the death
- arzel 8y agoImagine comparing Theranos to a toy.
- tomxor 8y agoI don't think Theranos is a good comparison... but I don't think it's fair to characterise AR as a toy either, some people probbaly said the same about early incarnations of the technology that drove high resolution colour displays, lots of technology looks like shiny toys to begin with, but that's only because you cannot forsee it's applicaiton... AR is definately general enough to have very useful applications.
- prablenha 8y agoYou were downvoted because it was a shit comment, doesn't matter if you were right or not