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California has been especially committed to challenging some of the administration's various injustices. Trump has made California one of his symbolic, non-whit

California has been especially committed to challenging some of the administration's various injustices. Trump has made California one of his symbolic, non-white boogeymen in order to manipulate his "base." https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/05/us/politics/trump-california-lawsuits.html https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/05/us/politics/trump-califor...

village-idiot 8y ago
Not unique to Trump. California has been the boogeyman of the right for quite a while now.
- guelo 8y ago
  But if a liberal makes a joke abut southern rednecks than they get all indignant about how elitist and offensive they are. So tiresome.
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  - justtopost 8y ago
    Bigotry is wrong on both sides. Seems odd to make it partisan when 'both' sides are spewing hate. Most of us just wish either extreme would pack it in.
    - village-idiot 8y ago
      I believe that pointing to a location and saying “look at what policies X and Y have done, let us adjust our messaging and policies in accordance with this new information” is perfectly fair. Characterizing the locals in those environs as inferior or fundamentally incorrect is morally wrong. So in this regard, desparaging california’s policies is completely fair. So would bashing on say, Kansas. But calling California the home of “libtards” or calling Kansas full of rednecks would not be fair.
Gibbon1 8y ago
Republicans have been trashing California since the Vietnam war.
- dragonwriter 8y ago
  Republicans dominated California in federal elections for most of its history until 1992; it was one of the most solid of Republican strongholds. Republicans have been trashing Hollywood and San Francisco/Berkeley for a long time, though.
  - jliptzin 8y ago
    It's amazing how many "conservatives" I've run into who've never been to San Francisco, but somehow "know" that it's a liberal hellhole that everyone hates.
    - hamandcheese 8y ago
      I live there now, can confirm.
    - stephengillie 8y ago
      Stories about NIMBYism on HN don't help.
      - pas 8y ago
        Isn't NIMBYis a very conservative-ish thing? (Though I think this just shows the failure of this mindless political labeling.) It places the individual's need, which are only incidental due to their current residence above the community's need. Whereas liberal-ish things tend to require something from every member of the community. (Less gun right, mandatory health insurance, more spending on refugees and unlucky folks, etc.)
  - Gibbon1 8y ago
    That branch of the Republican party is extinct though.

village-idiot 8y ago

Not unique to Trump. California has been the boogeyman of the right for quite a while now.

guelo 8y ago
But if a liberal makes a joke abut southern rednecks than they get all indignant about how elitist and offensive they are. So tiresome.
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- justtopost 8y ago
  Bigotry is wrong on both sides. Seems odd to make it partisan when 'both' sides are spewing hate. Most of us just wish either extreme would pack it in.
  - village-idiot 8y ago
    I believe that pointing to a location and saying “look at what policies X and Y have done, let us adjust our messaging and policies in accordance with this new information” is perfectly fair. Characterizing the locals in those environs as inferior or fundamentally incorrect is morally wrong. So in this regard, desparaging california’s policies is completely fair. So would bashing on say, Kansas. But calling California the home of “libtards” or calling Kansas full of rednecks would not be fair.

Gibbon1 8y ago

Republicans have been trashing California since the Vietnam war.

dragonwriter 8y ago
Republicans dominated California in federal elections for most of its history until 1992; it was one of the most solid of Republican strongholds. Republicans have been trashing Hollywood and San Francisco/Berkeley for a long time, though.
- jliptzin 8y ago
  It's amazing how many "conservatives" I've run into who've never been to San Francisco, but somehow "know" that it's a liberal hellhole that everyone hates.
  - hamandcheese 8y ago
    I live there now, can confirm.
  - stephengillie 8y ago
    Stories about NIMBYism on HN don't help.
    - pas 8y ago
      Isn't NIMBYis a very conservative-ish thing? (Though I think this just shows the failure of this mindless political labeling.) It places the individual's need, which are only incidental due to their current residence above the community's need. Whereas liberal-ish things tend to require something from every member of the community. (Less gun right, mandatory health insurance, more spending on refugees and unlucky folks, etc.)
- Gibbon1 8y ago
  That branch of the Republican party is extinct though.