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>In what way? There has been dozens of ideological factions calling themselves "Communists" like various types of anarchists, left-communists, Orthodox Marxists
by woodandsteel 8y ago
>In what way? There has been dozens of ideological factions calling themselves "Communists" like various types of anarchists, left-communists, Orthodox Marxists etc. More importantly, there was academic Marxism which wasn't revolutionary in its intention, which affected dozens of fields including history and sociology, and had factions too (e.g. Frankfurt School)
I should have been more clear. I meant Marxism that achieved real political power. My point is that Marx's original vision could never be carried out successfully in the real world. Your further comments don't really present an argument to the contrary.
- gnulinux 8y agoI don't suppose you read my comment since its entirety was about how there is no such thing as "Marx's original vision". If there is no political vision, there cannot be "Marxism that achieved real political power" so your argument is categorically wrong. I challenge you to give me examples of Marx's original vision; from what I understand Marx made himself pretty clear that communism is not an ideology and thus there cannot be a "vision" of it, the action of communists would be different depending on material conditions they live in. You can talk about personal vision of Communist revolutionaries (e.g. Lenin) but I already wrote an excessively long paragraph about why this is not relevant to Marxism.