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It's described as anti-feminist by some critics, namely the critics who are being disingenuous in their use of statistics lacking proper controls, or outright l
by srslack 8y ago
It's described as anti-feminist by some critics, namely the critics who are being disingenuous in their use of statistics lacking proper controls, or outright lying or misrepresenting what the statistics mean. It's not the brand of feminism they identify with, but it's still feminism.
Perhaps "proven" wasn't the best word for the parent, you can't ever prove a negative, but considering the wage gap vanishes to less than several cents with proper controls in every serious study, even those done by "pro-feminist" organizations that you claim would be objective[1], it's simply a myth.
Objectively, a gap of 4 to 7 cents may exist, but also may just need further statistical controls[2]. The 70 cent gap oft quoted is entirely meant to incite emotion, social unrest, government action, and is dismissive of the progress that has been made.
[1] http://history.aauw.org/files/2013/01/AAUWGraduatingtoaPayGapReport.pdf http://history.aauw.org/files/2013/01/AAUWGraduatingtoaPayGa... * It's tucked in here, there's dozens of pages going on about the pay gap, but you'll see that in several figures that they talk about the gap with controls versus without them.
[2] https://www.shrm.org/hr-today/public-policy/hr-public-policy-issues/Documents/Gender%20Wage%20Gap%20Final%20Report.pdf https://www.shrm.org/hr-today/public-policy/hr-public-policy... * "Although additional research in this area is clearly needed, this study leads to the unambiguous
conclusion that the differences in the compensation of men and women are the result of a
multitude of factors and that the raw wage gap should not be used as the basis to justify
corrective action. Indeed, there may be nothing to correct. The differences in raw wages may be
almost entirely the result of the individual choices being made by both male and female workers."
- wpietri 8y agoIt is described as antifeminist by most feminists. And by me, for what it's worth. I think you're burying a lot in "proper controls". And quoting a Bush administration official suggesting it's all about "individual choice" as if it were a neutral statement is not even vaguely giving a fair picture. Under capitalism, the whole point of market signals like wages and prices is to shape individual choice. So it's tautological to suggest that accounting for individual choice proves that there's no sexism embedded in the system. The reasonable feminist critique of approaches like this is that women don't just magically prefer part-time, family-friendly work any more than they just happened to prefer to be homemakers through most of history. In that view, we have been removing structural impediments to a fair society for centuries, and the work is not done yet.