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Can you dispute the claims made? I grabbed the first Google result but there are many. I can’t find a single piece of data that says women are paid 70% of men f

Can you dispute the claims made? I grabbed the first Google result but there are many. I can’t find a single piece of data that says women are paid 70% of men for the same job. Can you?

wpietri 8y ago
You're seriously asking me to do free research for the guy who started with an opinion and uncritically posted the first Google hit that agreed with his position? Why would that be a good use of my time?
- malvosenior 8y ago
  I’ve already done the research, but you don’t seem to believe me so I’m telling you to go look for yourself. The “wage gap” is not a thing and it’s inevitable people are going to tell you that if you try to promote it.
  - wpietri 8y ago
    If you have done the research, then a) why did you cite an unreviewed opinion piece as your only evidence, and b) why did you ask me to do the work of disputing your claims instead of just providing the evidence? I obviously have looked and do believe it's a thing. Even individual CEOs discover it's a thing within their companies. For example, Salesforce: https://www.inc.com/marcel-schwantes/the-ceo-of-salesforce-found-out-female-employees-are-paid-less-than-men-his-response-is-a-priceless-leadership-lesson.html https://www.inc.com/marcel-schwantes/the-ceo-of-salesforce-f... If it didn't exist, it's certainly surprising that companies keep finding it internally and correcting it.
    - malvosenior 8y ago
      That's a nice bit of PR but if you look at Salesforce's old blog, you'll see there was no gender pay gap: "Our assessment showed that we needed to adjust some salaries—for both men and women. Approximately six percent of employees required a salary adjustment, and roughly the same number of women and men were impacted. Salesforce has spent nearly $3 million dollars to eliminate statistically significant differences in pay." https://www.salesforce.com/blog/2016/03/equality-at-salesforce-equal-pay.html https://www.salesforce.com/blog/2016/03/equality-at-salesfor...

Can you dispute the claims made? I grabbed the first Google result but there are many. I can’t find a single piece of data that says women are paid 70% of men for the same job. Can you?

wpietri 8y ago

You're seriously asking me to do free research for the guy who started with an opinion and uncritically posted the first Google hit that agreed with his position? Why would that be a good use of my time?

malvosenior 8y ago
I’ve already done the research, but you don’t seem to believe me so I’m telling you to go look for yourself. The “wage gap” is not a thing and it’s inevitable people are going to tell you that if you try to promote it.
- wpietri 8y ago
  If you have done the research, then a) why did you cite an unreviewed opinion piece as your only evidence, and b) why did you ask me to do the work of disputing your claims instead of just providing the evidence? I obviously have looked and do believe it's a thing. Even individual CEOs discover it's a thing within their companies. For example, Salesforce: https://www.inc.com/marcel-schwantes/the-ceo-of-salesforce-found-out-female-employees-are-paid-less-than-men-his-response-is-a-priceless-leadership-lesson.html https://www.inc.com/marcel-schwantes/the-ceo-of-salesforce-f... If it didn't exist, it's certainly surprising that companies keep finding it internally and correcting it.
  - malvosenior 8y ago
    That's a nice bit of PR but if you look at Salesforce's old blog, you'll see there was no gender pay gap: "Our assessment showed that we needed to adjust some salaries—for both men and women. Approximately six percent of employees required a salary adjustment, and roughly the same number of women and men were impacted. Salesforce has spent nearly $3 million dollars to eliminate statistically significant differences in pay." https://www.salesforce.com/blog/2016/03/equality-at-salesforce-equal-pay.html https://www.salesforce.com/blog/2016/03/equality-at-salesfor...