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In the HN people always complain that geocode systems are hard to remember and/or write and praise "readable" or "memorable" systems like what3words. I'm of cou
by lifthrasiir 8y ago
In the HN people always complain that geocode systems are hard to remember and/or write and praise "readable" or "memorable" systems like what3words. I'm of course a strong opponent to what3words for various grounds, but more importantly geocode systems do not necessarily have to be human-friendly.
I think geocodes should be compared to ZIP codes, not something else. They both mainly act as a machine-readable version of (approximated or more accurate) human-readable addresses. No one complain about ZIP (or ZIP+4) codes being numeral. They do not, nor can't, replace human-readable addresses---even the most accurate geocodes will require a room number or a PO box number to be the true replacement (unless you are comfortable about calculating three-dimensional WGS 84 coordinates with 10cm accuracy and forcing poor post carriers to resolve them :-). They might have to be verbally communicated for the short period of time, so shorter, verbally distinguishable, verifiable codes do help, but that's not the biggest concern.
If we already have ZIP codes, why do we need another system(s)? It certainly helps that:
- Geocodes can be automatically generated from (now universal) WGS 84 coordinates.
- Geocodes, once their algorithm is fixed, never change.
- Many geocodes offer a trade-off between the length and accuracy. Moreover, this trade-off is generally predictable.
- Some geocodes can be shortened and accurately recovered with the context (country or city).
In this regard, after having seen a lot of alternatives, I do think plus codes are close to being optimal. But it should be mentioned that their applications are always limited to what ZIP codes and human-readable addresses can't and geocodes can. (Mongol Post's adoption of what3words is special because there is no permanent human-readable addresses for many mobile settlements. But what3words is not superior to other geocodes in this particular application.)
- 7952 8y agoAll an address really does is act as a set of instructions for a postal worker. It is not an explicit definition of location and can change over time. And mail companies will not necessarily maintain a database of the actual location of the letter box or door. It is enough to just follow the instructions. You need these kind of geocodes where a short instruction is not possible. A lot of Africa is like this. And maybe it could work for drone deliverys where you want to target an exact location.
- lifthrasiir 8y agoI did mention the Mongol Post as an exception, so I think you do not really disagree with me. Also, I think human-readable addresses are really transitional (that is, there may exist needs for written geocodes as a near-replacement of addresses but not indefinitely). For drone deliveries, users will simply let their smartphones determine GPS coordinates instead of typing geocodes anyway. This does not work indoors but flying drones won't get there :-)
- masukomi 8y ago> All an address really does is act as a set of instructions for a postal worker. I think you are unfamiliar with Japanese addressing. While it has been changing since 1962 the older style was basically instructionless. It was just a unique identifier for some place within the town. Maybe it'd have a number that corresponded to the plot of land being registered with the land registry, which in no way resembles a street number. About the only thing you can say about addresses internationally is that they are pointers to a location. The definition of "location" varies wildly in specificity and there is no guarantee of instructions or relative location metadata.
- Nokinside 8y agoI don't see any advantage over MGRS, GEOREF or GARS.