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legitimate question: why not upload it to YouTube? You can still have the torrent link in the description if people want to download it, you will reach a wider

legitimate question: why not upload it to YouTube? You can still have the torrent link in the description if people want to download it, you will reach a wider audience and you might actually make some money off it to fund future fan projects.

nyolfen 8y ago
or, it might be arbitrarily demonetized or deleted, or have a a spurious takedown put on it
- em-bee 8y ago
  unlikely, it's independent work that may contain some copyrighted designs but not anything copied directly of the original film, so the content-id won't detect it. star trek fan films also stay on. you just can't/shouldn't monetize it because that would motivate the owners of the original film to stop you. greetings, eMBee.
  - M2Ys4U 8y ago
    >unlikely, it's independent work that may contain some copyrighted designs but not anything copied directly of the original film, so the content-id won't detect it. That is incredibly naive. Content ID has been picking up things as innocuous as applause at the end of an entirely novel recording as being copyright infringement.
    - em-bee 8y ago
      do you have a reference for that? (not that i don't believe you, but i'd like to read that story and share it as a good example how bad this system is) given the amount of star trek fan-films on youtube (there are thousands, literally) spurious takedowns would be noticeable. so i don't think i am naive here. as long as all your sound and images are original or from a creative commons source a takedown should be unlikely. (that doesn't mean it can't happen though) greetings, eMBee.
      - M2Ys4U 8y ago
        > do you have a reference for that? (not that i don't believe you, but i'd like to read that story and share it as a good example how bad this system is) Sure: https://twitter.com/mormolyke/status/1011637522324127745 https://twitter.com/mormolyke/status/1011637522324127745 There's also examples like this, about a Star Wars fan film, where Warner claimed that silence infringed on their music copyright! https://www.wired.com/story/the-star-wars-video-that-baffled-youtubes-copyright-cops/ https://www.wired.com/story/the-star-wars-video-that-baffled...
ricardobeat 8y ago
The video was released in 2003. YouTube went live in 2005.

nyolfen 8y ago

or, it might be arbitrarily demonetized or deleted, or have a a spurious takedown put on it

em-bee 8y ago
unlikely, it's independent work that may contain some copyrighted designs but not anything copied directly of the original film, so the content-id won't detect it. star trek fan films also stay on. you just can't/shouldn't monetize it because that would motivate the owners of the original film to stop you. greetings, eMBee.
- M2Ys4U 8y ago
  >unlikely, it's independent work that may contain some copyrighted designs but not anything copied directly of the original film, so the content-id won't detect it. That is incredibly naive. Content ID has been picking up things as innocuous as applause at the end of an entirely novel recording as being copyright infringement.
  - em-bee 8y ago
    do you have a reference for that? (not that i don't believe you, but i'd like to read that story and share it as a good example how bad this system is) given the amount of star trek fan-films on youtube (there are thousands, literally) spurious takedowns would be noticeable. so i don't think i am naive here. as long as all your sound and images are original or from a creative commons source a takedown should be unlikely. (that doesn't mean it can't happen though) greetings, eMBee.
    - M2Ys4U 8y ago
      > do you have a reference for that? (not that i don't believe you, but i'd like to read that story and share it as a good example how bad this system is) Sure: https://twitter.com/mormolyke/status/1011637522324127745 https://twitter.com/mormolyke/status/1011637522324127745 There's also examples like this, about a Star Wars fan film, where Warner claimed that silence infringed on their music copyright! https://www.wired.com/story/the-star-wars-video-that-baffled-youtubes-copyright-cops/ https://www.wired.com/story/the-star-wars-video-that-baffled...

ricardobeat 8y ago

The video was released in 2003. YouTube went live in 2005.