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But the argument is that women want to have more kids but can't because of career, maternity leave, benefits, etc. Also, survey after survey says that women wan

But the argument is that women want to have more kids but can't because of career, maternity leave, benefits, etc. Also, survey after survey says that women want 2 or 3 kids ( average is about 2.5 ). But the fertility rate is far less than 2. So there is a disconnect between what women want and what women have. The question is why? Why aren't women able to achieve their goals? Of all the answers given, all of them are suspect. > The trauma, in particular, is weirdly something that people don’t talk to young women about, and that often remains hidden from view. Everybody talks about it. It's why society discourages girls from getting pregnant. > Of the women I’ve known personally who have given birth, all but one had PTSD from the experience. Well your experience is rather the anomaly. Most first time mothers choose to get pregnant again? 80% of first time mothers choose to do it again. Sure the birthing process isn't a walk in the park, but to say it is "trauma or PTSD" is absurd from a statistical and evolutionary point of view. > I would also suggest that concerns about “birth rate” or other abstracted metrics are often a screen for concerns — from men — about access to sex. I mean, in the context of intensifying climate change, a decreasing birth rate is not really our biggest problem as a species. It might actually be an asset. It's obvious your bias leans towards low birth rate but this is absurd and makes it hard to take you seriously. To say concerns about "birth rate" is about access to sex is nonsense. You do realize that pregnancy and higher birth rates gets in the way of sex right? It's one of the reasons why men invented condoms and birth control. Greater access to sex.

kaitai 8y ago
Dude, no one talks about degree 2 vs degree 3 peritoneal tears or peeing when you jumprope. That is not talked about. I don't think you have any idea of the actual trauma involved in birth: the membrane sweeps, the cervix check, the coercion into surgery under the threat of your kid dying, being essentially chained to a bed unable to leave because of an IV and the monitor when you know just being able to walk down the hall would make you feel better. The epidural gone in wrong, paralyzing one side of your body but leaving the other side in great pain, and then being unable to push because of the asymmetry. The nurse telling you you're not allowed to push until the ob-gyn comes, but the ob-gyn is out to lunch. Afterward, the mastitis, the bleeding nipples, the sharp stabbing pain in your pelvis when you try to do side plank. Yeah. Yeah, that's not why we tell girls not to get pregnant.

kaitai 8y ago

Dude, no one talks about degree 2 vs degree 3 peritoneal tears or peeing when you jumprope. That is not talked about. I don't think you have any idea of the actual trauma involved in birth: the membrane sweeps, the cervix check, the coercion into surgery under the threat of your kid dying, being essentially chained to a bed unable to leave because of an IV and the monitor when you know just being able to walk down the hall would make you feel better. The epidural gone in wrong, paralyzing one side of your body but leaving the other side in great pain, and then being unable to push because of the asymmetry. The nurse telling you you're not allowed to push until the ob-gyn comes, but the ob-gyn is out to lunch. Afterward, the mastitis, the bleeding nipples, the sharp stabbing pain in your pelvis when you try to do side plank. Yeah. Yeah, that's not why we tell girls not to get pregnant.