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> The SEC also today charged Tesla with failing to have required disclosure controls and procedures relating to Musk’s tweets It’s almost like the current admi

> The SEC also today charged Tesla with failing to have required disclosure controls and procedures relating to Musk’s tweets It’s almost like the current administration should also have these!

SlowRobotAhead 8y ago
A. The presidency isn’t a publicly traded company. B. Obvious joke about “but it’s for sale like it is” :) C. Anyone still arguing about Trump Tweets is being obtuse the bias in media. He found a loophole to get his message out, I don’t agree with the content usually but can’t fault him for the workaround.
- machinesmachine 8y ago
  A: Except, it kinda is. Trades are made, goods are exchanged, in many ways it's similar, just depending on different rules
- kumarvvr 8y ago
  >The presidency isn’t a publicly traded company. Yes. But it is enormously more important than a simple publicly traded company. If a company fails to follow rules, it might bankrupt itself / cheat shareholders / cause minor economic harm. Maybe the shareholders lose all their money. If the president fails to follow the rule of law, whole countries will perish. In a way, the presidency should be held accountable at a far more higher level of compliance than a publicly traded company. >Anyone still arguing about Trump Tweets is being obtuse the bias in media. He found a loophole to get his message out, I don’t agree with the content usually but can’t fault him for the workaround. He can get his message out anyway he wants. Tweets, facebook posts, sms, heck even an RFC document. Nobody cares. What everyone cares about is the timing, the potential for vast damage that a single tweet at the wrong time can do, the inherent limited text of tweets having the potential to be misinterpreted. It's not what he can do, but whether he should do it. A person running a whole country ought to be more responsible and should be held responsible for his actions. And for such a person with enormous power, every small act, counts. Imagine the president wearing the Hindu swastika (a deeply religious symbol to Hindus) for Diwali celebrations at a state event,but the clip holding the swastika symbol slips, and the swastika turns a bit. There would be seismic changes in people and societies around the world instantaneously. Now, is the president responsible for the loose clip, perhaps not. Is the president responsible for making sure such things dont happen, absolutely.
  - SlowRobotAhead 8y ago
    Except in your example... The idiots that don’t understand the swastica symbol is in Asia can rightfully be ignored. And to Trump he’s looking at the overwhelmingly negative media putting their intentional spin - he’s claiming they are the ones to say it’s a white power symbol... and looking at the joke of the media making the OK to be the same - he’s not entirely wrong here. Just admit, you had no problem with Obama tweets and right or wrong or unintended consequences aside - Trump figured out a way to get his message out without the media and that pisses them off.
- daveFNbuck 8y ago
  He didn't find a loophole to get his message out. He's the President of the United States. He can call a press conference and everyone will report on his message across the country. There's no need for a loophole. The complaint is that he's communicating irresponsibly in a way that needlessly hurts others.
  - Amezarak 8y ago
    Since at least the early 2000s, and certainly throughout the Bush and Obama administrations, the media has felt perfectly free to basically ignore any Presidential press conference they didn't think was interesting. You were doing good if the media passed on a few soundbites or put a story about it (in their words, with their framing) on the front page. Twitter, for better or worse, gives you direct access to normal people. I'm no fan of Musk, but I'm inclined to believe that if our financial (and in the example, political) system is so fragile that tweets can blow it all to hell, we have a serious problem and system collapse is inevitable.
    - daveFNbuck 8y ago
      No one is complaining about the tweets that aren't interesting. Obama tweeted too.
  - andys627 8y ago
    I think he did. No one reads press releases... I am not a fan of Trump but I think it's cool (terrifying?) that we can get his stream of consciousness through Twitter.
dx87 8y ago
This isn't reddit. If you don't have anything worth saying just keep your pointless political snipes to yourself.
- littlesheephtpt 8y ago
  Pot, meet kettle.

> The SEC also today charged Tesla with failing to have required disclosure controls and procedures relating to Musk’s tweets It’s almost like the current administration should also have these!

SlowRobotAhead 8y ago

A. The presidency isn’t a publicly traded company. B. Obvious joke about “but it’s for sale like it is” :) C. Anyone still arguing about Trump Tweets is being obtuse the bias in media. He found a loophole to get his message out, I don’t agree with the content usually but can’t fault him for the workaround.

machinesmachine 8y ago
A: Except, it kinda is. Trades are made, goods are exchanged, in many ways it's similar, just depending on different rules
kumarvvr 8y ago
>The presidency isn’t a publicly traded company. Yes. But it is enormously more important than a simple publicly traded company. If a company fails to follow rules, it might bankrupt itself / cheat shareholders / cause minor economic harm. Maybe the shareholders lose all their money. If the president fails to follow the rule of law, whole countries will perish. In a way, the presidency should be held accountable at a far more higher level of compliance than a publicly traded company. >Anyone still arguing about Trump Tweets is being obtuse the bias in media. He found a loophole to get his message out, I don’t agree with the content usually but can’t fault him for the workaround. He can get his message out anyway he wants. Tweets, facebook posts, sms, heck even an RFC document. Nobody cares. What everyone cares about is the timing, the potential for vast damage that a single tweet at the wrong time can do, the inherent limited text of tweets having the potential to be misinterpreted. It's not what he can do, but whether he should do it. A person running a whole country ought to be more responsible and should be held responsible for his actions. And for such a person with enormous power, every small act, counts. Imagine the president wearing the Hindu swastika (a deeply religious symbol to Hindus) for Diwali celebrations at a state event,but the clip holding the swastika symbol slips, and the swastika turns a bit. There would be seismic changes in people and societies around the world instantaneously. Now, is the president responsible for the loose clip, perhaps not. Is the president responsible for making sure such things dont happen, absolutely.
- SlowRobotAhead 8y ago
  Except in your example... The idiots that don’t understand the swastica symbol is in Asia can rightfully be ignored. And to Trump he’s looking at the overwhelmingly negative media putting their intentional spin - he’s claiming they are the ones to say it’s a white power symbol... and looking at the joke of the media making the OK to be the same - he’s not entirely wrong here. Just admit, you had no problem with Obama tweets and right or wrong or unintended consequences aside - Trump figured out a way to get his message out without the media and that pisses them off.
daveFNbuck 8y ago
He didn't find a loophole to get his message out. He's the President of the United States. He can call a press conference and everyone will report on his message across the country. There's no need for a loophole. The complaint is that he's communicating irresponsibly in a way that needlessly hurts others.
- Amezarak 8y ago
  Since at least the early 2000s, and certainly throughout the Bush and Obama administrations, the media has felt perfectly free to basically ignore any Presidential press conference they didn't think was interesting. You were doing good if the media passed on a few soundbites or put a story about it (in their words, with their framing) on the front page. Twitter, for better or worse, gives you direct access to normal people. I'm no fan of Musk, but I'm inclined to believe that if our financial (and in the example, political) system is so fragile that tweets can blow it all to hell, we have a serious problem and system collapse is inevitable.
  - daveFNbuck 8y ago
    No one is complaining about the tweets that aren't interesting. Obama tweeted too.
- andys627 8y ago
  I think he did. No one reads press releases... I am not a fan of Trump but I think it's cool (terrifying?) that we can get his stream of consciousness through Twitter.

dx87 8y ago

This isn't reddit. If you don't have anything worth saying just keep your pointless political snipes to yourself.

littlesheephtpt 8y ago
Pot, meet kettle.