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There were three recent scandals at MPIs a few weeks to months back, the most recent one being: http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2018/08/she-s-world-s-top-empath
by DanielleMolloy 8y ago
There were three recent scandals at MPIs a few weeks to months back, the most recent one being:
http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2018/08/she-s-world-s-top-empathy-researcher-colleagues-say-she-bullied-and-intimidated-them http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2018/08/she-s-world-s-top-emp...
I'm glad that this new Guardian article highlights that it is a structural problem. When reading up on the MPI cases it seemed as if it was a problem of few labs only. Due to the power imbalance, as a to-be-PhD student you are strongly advised to experience several labs before making a decision where to go. Don't only look at metrics such as reputation. It is incredibly hard to find a good PhD advisor, and intuition trained by good and bad experiences does help.
Similarly bad are people in those labs who don't recognize the behaviour as such because they either have never experienced a non-dysfunctional lab or see benefit in licking upwards (they may hope they can be in the intimidating position one time). Every party enabling this seems to confuse abusiveness with strength and assertiveness. Is it Stockholm syndrome?
The supervisor's perspective is that grant pressure can be very stressful. But as soon as multiple people agree to the point that they file formal complaints the problem can't be the PhD student anymore.
I have still proportionally seen more functional than dysfunctional labs in science though, great labs do exist. I would expect that the problem is much worse in industry than in academia.
- xioxox 8y agoIt should be noted that MPIs are extremely hierarchical organisations, where basically everything is run by directors who have a lot of freedom. When a director retires, the whole institute has to be reshaped.
- vymague 8y agoHow is it different from other German universities and institutes?
- rotskoff 8y agoThe MPIs are set up as director-driven research organizations. There is one person, typically a very prominent scientist, that oversees a group of junior faculty (who I believe have only fixed term positions---i.e., no possibility of tenure). Unlike most university settings, where each faculty member controls their research program independently, the Max Planck Institutes add another level to the hierarchy.
- chrisseaton 8y ago> Due to the power imbalance, as a to-be-PhD student you are strongly advised to experience several labs before making a decision where to go. This isn’t tractable in the UK, where students go straight from the final exams of their undergraduate degree, right into the thesis stage of a PhD.
- rleigh 8y agoMany PhD programmes are now four years with the first year being rotations in several labs doing short projects for a few months each. At the end, you can decide which supervisor is the best fit and work on a mutually interesting project proposal. (I wish I had this option in retrospect)