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Man this post made me angry. Being human is a morally brankrupt position. Accumulating wealth is a morally brankrupt pastime. If you want to be a morally pur

by jim777 8y ago

Man this post made me angry. Being human is a morally brankrupt position. Accumulating wealth is a morally brankrupt pastime. If you want to be a morally pure human, starve yourself -- that's the only way.

avip 8y ago
Starving yourself is undoubtedly morally bankrupt, especially so if you have elderly parents or young kids or random loved ones or dependants in general. Not by accident killing oneself is considered a primary sin in many mainstream religions.
- paulcole 8y ago
  Oh, well if the mainstream religions think it’s bad surely it must be.
1000units 8y ago
I've always liked this line, even after becoming quite wealthy: And again I say to you: It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of heaven. --Matthew 19:24
- dylan604 8y ago
  When I first heard this as a kid, I immediately thought about a real life camel attempting to fit through the hole for thread in a sewing needle. That seemed like a very odd comparison as to who would try to do such an odd thing? As an adult, I heard someone talk about one of the gates in the wall to Jerusalem was named the "eye of the needle" because of its shape. If a camel was loaded up that exceeded a certain height, the camel could not fit through the gate. It was this situation that the biblical passage was supposedly referring. So as with most things, context really helped. </random_tangent>
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  - throwaway2048 8y ago
    There is no historical evidence for this, its pretty clearly apocryphal. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eye_of_a_needle https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eye_of_a_needle
  - swozey 8y ago
    My understanding is that it's more hyperbolic than that. There are gates around Jerusalem called "Eye of the Needle" (St Alexander Nevskys Church for instance, its supposedly the location of a 1st century city wall) and a man can barely fit through these himself. I could be totally wrong, of course. Maybe they started naming holes in dilapidated walls that to bring tourists/pilgrims. Did a quick google for pic examples; https://patmcinerney.wordpress.com/2014/06/30/the-church-of-saint-alexander-nevsky/ https://patmcinerney.wordpress.com/2014/06/30/the-church-of-...

by jim777 8y ago

avip 8y ago

Starving yourself is undoubtedly morally bankrupt, especially so if you have elderly parents or young kids or random loved ones or dependants in general. Not by accident killing oneself is considered a primary sin in many mainstream religions.

paulcole 8y ago
Oh, well if the mainstream religions think it’s bad surely it must be.

1000units 8y ago

I've always liked this line, even after becoming quite wealthy: And again I say to you: It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of heaven. --Matthew 19:24

dylan604 8y ago
When I first heard this as a kid, I immediately thought about a real life camel attempting to fit through the hole for thread in a sewing needle. That seemed like a very odd comparison as to who would try to do such an odd thing? As an adult, I heard someone talk about one of the gates in the wall to Jerusalem was named the "eye of the needle" because of its shape. If a camel was loaded up that exceeded a certain height, the camel could not fit through the gate. It was this situation that the biblical passage was supposedly referring. So as with most things, context really helped. </random_tangent>
- deleted 8y ago
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- throwaway2048 8y ago
  There is no historical evidence for this, its pretty clearly apocryphal. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eye_of_a_needle https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eye_of_a_needle
- swozey 8y ago
  My understanding is that it's more hyperbolic than that. There are gates around Jerusalem called "Eye of the Needle" (St Alexander Nevskys Church for instance, its supposedly the location of a 1st century city wall) and a man can barely fit through these himself. I could be totally wrong, of course. Maybe they started naming holes in dilapidated walls that to bring tourists/pilgrims. Did a quick google for pic examples; https://patmcinerney.wordpress.com/2014/06/30/the-church-of-saint-alexander-nevsky/ https://patmcinerney.wordpress.com/2014/06/30/the-church-of-...