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I don't mind the look that much, but it's painfully slow. When an application gains a animated splash screen I know that it's time has come. I'm using a Chromeb

by hawski 8y ago

I don't mind the look that much, but it's painfully slow. When an application gains a animated splash screen I know that it's time has come. I'm using a Chromebook, so in a way a Google blessed device and it's annoyingly slow. I'm switching to basic HTML view. If it will disappear I will get off gmail for good.

cevn 8y ago
Agreed. It is extremely slow, esp. on older computers to the point of being unusable. Another app reinvents the wheel and becomes useless.
- manimal4today 8y ago
  Yeah my Commodore has issues with Gmail as well.
  - nsriv 8y ago
    Hey that's pretty funny, but I'm on a 2014 Thinkpad with an i7, and it's slow and stuttery for me as well.
stevenwoo 8y ago
Thanks for confirmation, I'm on DSL so wasn't sure if it was just my super slow connection. Also, nice coincidence that those multiple ask hackernews questions about alternatives to gmail popping up before this release last week.
mercenario 8y ago
To me it is annoying slow to open gmail, but the navigation is mostly very fast.
save_ferris 8y ago
it's especially bad on Firefox. With that, and the fact that Google is killing Inbox, it feels like time to look for alternatives.
- reeeprgenx 8y ago
  Please leave GMAIL. I hear AOL has got it going on.
  - iforgotpassword 8y ago
    Hey op, I found the googler ;)
- ex3ndr 8y ago
  Sure, but where? There are not that much email providers that will live forever and won't change your UX and have mobile apps, and... and...
  - JoshTriplett 8y ago
    Get a domain from Gandi. $15/year and includes email service. You can either use the email directly, or forward it somewhere else so you can keep using the same email address forever even if you change providers.
    - ex3ndr 8y ago
      This is no different than just using Gmail. Eventually yet another service is gone and you have to adjust your workflow to another email app.
      - JoshTriplett 8y ago
        First, if you use your own mail clients rather than the vendor's interface, you don't need to change apps when you change email providers. Second, even if you do need to change apps, you don't need to change addresses if you have your own domain.
      - jplayer01 8y ago
        I have no idea how you can compare Gmail to Thunderbird + your own domain + any decently sized email provider. It's absolutely trivial to move domains and email providers and using a client like Thunderbird means your experience remains consistent (and performant) over time.
elboru 8y ago
Painfully slow, that's how I describe it too. Right now I'm on a remote location, where internet is delivered by antennas, bandwidth is not much of a problem but latency is high. I've got used to it for most sites, but not with Gmail, Gmail is an exception, it makes me doubt if I lost connection or not, so I usually open HN to test it and 99% of the time it's Gmail's fault not my connection's. I prefer to use Inbox since it loads twice as fast, too bad Google is shooting it down soon.
fluiux 8y ago
Same. I hope keeping the previous design as an option won't be removed.
reeeprgenx 8y ago
Head to AOL now. Please leave Gmail.
- nofunsir 8y ago
  Please leave HN. Oh wait, you were just banned on your other account so you hopped on this one.
sfohohoho 8y ago
Oh shit. We didn't know "hawski" from the "hackernews form" doesn't like it, lets revert stat!! Threatening to quit is the equivalent to Godwin."Ima gonna quit" is probably the saddest thing to share on the Internet.
of 8y ago
Woah, basic HTML view still looks nice! I forgot that was an option. I'm switching too.
treis 8y ago
I must have a super computer because it is blazing fast for me after an initial 1-2s load time.
- mikeleeorg 8y ago
  Hmm. I haven't perceived any slow down. Especially not like others here are saying. Gmail still seems pretty quick to me.
  - tarboreus 8y ago
    Are you using a computer from the last 4 years and sitting one mile away from where the app was created? Conditions aren't the same everywhere, and you can look to see how much memory it's using, which is a lot, and it's unconcerned with reliability and redundancy in communication with the server.
- thinkingemote 8y ago
  It's fast for me too, apart from the one to two second load time for opening an email, inbox, filter, spam boxes etc.
  - pyman 8y ago
    What kind of connection do you have? Because I live in a rural area, have slow internet connection and the only site I’m having difficulties navigating is Gmail. Also, the new UI is a complete UX disaster.
manimal4today 8y ago
I dont have any issues. Lighting fast. Maybe they put you in a test bucket.
mrbonner 8y ago
I have a 2015 MBP with 16GB of RAM and a core i5. The experience using Firefox with the new Gmail UI with this laptop is nothing but sluggish. I have to switch back to the old UI. I am not sure what I would do after Google takes away the old UI. What the hell is going on at Google?
- kirb 8y ago
  Firefox has severe performance issues on high dpi displays on macOS. It’s gotten better in the latest nightlies but still an issue. As an unfortunate (for your eyes) workaround you can do Get Info on Firefox.app and enable low resolution compatibility mode, then restart Firefox.
- PurpleRamen 8y ago
  > What the hell is going on at Google? Iterations are going on. There is a school of thought that believes any kind of movement is progress. May it movement into good or bad direction. Thats why companys regulary rehaul their apps, the design and corperate identity. It always end with some people becoming unhappy, but hopefully more people being happy.
  - peatmoss 8y ago
    Change for change’s sake. I feel like F/OSS has a potential advantage here in being able to take the time to build durable, long-lived, stable software. The web-everything world we live in right now has led to a cambrian explosion in new UI metaphors and visual design. I can only hope at some point we all wake up and decide that GNUMail running on GNU Hurd has gotten really stable, and that maybe we should all just re-adopt open protocols and native apps.
- RichardCA 8y ago
  Their culture seems to be based on rotating new product managers in every 2-3 years. It's logical that a new manger will want to make their mark and prove they "did something".
quickthrower2 8y ago
That splash screen is pretty noisy if you have a touch of synesthesia.
megakid 8y ago
100% agree, infact I now use it as an example to our CTO who is absolutely deadset on actively spending time on replacing our inhouse expert UI frontends (currently written in native UIs, blazing fast etc) with web frontends. Yes they can be effective + fast, but telling a room of native devs to convert everything to web will end badly if not given the proper support.
html5web 8y ago
I describe it as too slow too. I wonder if they tested it before pushing it live to the world.
- pyman 8y ago
  Countries, areas or users with slow internet connections should be given the option to use the classic UI, which in my case was much faster. I guess the way Google works is: let’s ship something quickly(1) and then slowly(2) improve it. (1) quickly: 2 years (2) slowly: 4 years
dvfjsdhgfv 8y ago
It's the final straw for me. I mean, for me Gmail was an important tool for daily business. I choose this tool for certain reasons, but now that most of them are gone, why stick to it? I'm migrating my accounts right now and it's actually fun. One thing I still don't understand is why they wouldn't let people to use the old interface. Come on, it's just the UI, why force your taste on everyone?
Guest9812398 8y ago
This seems to be the case for most Google services. I use Google DoubleClick, AdSense, and Analytics, and they seem to get slower, and more clunky with every update. I was using DoubleClick yesterday, and I was waiting about 10 seconds for every page to load. Then I searched for help on a topic and I was sent to the Google product forums, which nearly offered an equally poor experience. The frustration reminded me of my years with dial-up, even though it's 20 years in the future, and I have an 80 Mb/s internet connection. And of course the most basic features don't always work correctly with Google services now, such as being able to open a link in a new window, or being able to navigate without the back button breaking in some way. Without question, Google services are the worst I currently use in my daily life. I would honestly be embarrassed to have my name attached to many of their products.

by hawski 8y ago

cevn 8y ago

Agreed. It is extremely slow, esp. on older computers to the point of being unusable. Another app reinvents the wheel and becomes useless.

manimal4today 8y ago
Yeah my Commodore has issues with Gmail as well.
- nsriv 8y ago
  Hey that's pretty funny, but I'm on a 2014 Thinkpad with an i7, and it's slow and stuttery for me as well.

stevenwoo 8y ago

Thanks for confirmation, I'm on DSL so wasn't sure if it was just my super slow connection. Also, nice coincidence that those multiple ask hackernews questions about alternatives to gmail popping up before this release last week.

mercenario 8y ago

To me it is annoying slow to open gmail, but the navigation is mostly very fast.

save_ferris 8y ago

it's especially bad on Firefox. With that, and the fact that Google is killing Inbox, it feels like time to look for alternatives.

reeeprgenx 8y ago
Please leave GMAIL. I hear AOL has got it going on.
- iforgotpassword 8y ago
  Hey op, I found the googler ;)
ex3ndr 8y ago
Sure, but where? There are not that much email providers that will live forever and won't change your UX and have mobile apps, and... and...
- JoshTriplett 8y ago
  Get a domain from Gandi. $15/year and includes email service. You can either use the email directly, or forward it somewhere else so you can keep using the same email address forever even if you change providers.
  - ex3ndr 8y ago
    This is no different than just using Gmail. Eventually yet another service is gone and you have to adjust your workflow to another email app.
    - JoshTriplett 8y ago
      First, if you use your own mail clients rather than the vendor's interface, you don't need to change apps when you change email providers. Second, even if you do need to change apps, you don't need to change addresses if you have your own domain.
    - jplayer01 8y ago
      I have no idea how you can compare Gmail to Thunderbird + your own domain + any decently sized email provider. It's absolutely trivial to move domains and email providers and using a client like Thunderbird means your experience remains consistent (and performant) over time.

elboru 8y ago

Painfully slow, that's how I describe it too. Right now I'm on a remote location, where internet is delivered by antennas, bandwidth is not much of a problem but latency is high. I've got used to it for most sites, but not with Gmail, Gmail is an exception, it makes me doubt if I lost connection or not, so I usually open HN to test it and 99% of the time it's Gmail's fault not my connection's. I prefer to use Inbox since it loads twice as fast, too bad Google is shooting it down soon.

fluiux 8y ago

Same. I hope keeping the previous design as an option won't be removed.

reeeprgenx 8y ago

Head to AOL now. Please leave Gmail.

nofunsir 8y ago
Please leave HN. Oh wait, you were just banned on your other account so you hopped on this one.

sfohohoho 8y ago

Oh shit. We didn't know "hawski" from the "hackernews form" doesn't like it, lets revert stat!! Threatening to quit is the equivalent to Godwin."Ima gonna quit" is probably the saddest thing to share on the Internet.

of 8y ago

Woah, basic HTML view still looks nice! I forgot that was an option. I'm switching too.

treis 8y ago

I must have a super computer because it is blazing fast for me after an initial 1-2s load time.

mikeleeorg 8y ago
Hmm. I haven't perceived any slow down. Especially not like others here are saying. Gmail still seems pretty quick to me.
- tarboreus 8y ago
  Are you using a computer from the last 4 years and sitting one mile away from where the app was created? Conditions aren't the same everywhere, and you can look to see how much memory it's using, which is a lot, and it's unconcerned with reliability and redundancy in communication with the server.
thinkingemote 8y ago
It's fast for me too, apart from the one to two second load time for opening an email, inbox, filter, spam boxes etc.
- pyman 8y ago
  What kind of connection do you have? Because I live in a rural area, have slow internet connection and the only site I’m having difficulties navigating is Gmail. Also, the new UI is a complete UX disaster.

manimal4today 8y ago

I dont have any issues. Lighting fast. Maybe they put you in a test bucket.

mrbonner 8y ago

I have a 2015 MBP with 16GB of RAM and a core i5. The experience using Firefox with the new Gmail UI with this laptop is nothing but sluggish. I have to switch back to the old UI. I am not sure what I would do after Google takes away the old UI. What the hell is going on at Google?

kirb 8y ago
Firefox has severe performance issues on high dpi displays on macOS. It’s gotten better in the latest nightlies but still an issue. As an unfortunate (for your eyes) workaround you can do Get Info on Firefox.app and enable low resolution compatibility mode, then restart Firefox.
PurpleRamen 8y ago
> What the hell is going on at Google? Iterations are going on. There is a school of thought that believes any kind of movement is progress. May it movement into good or bad direction. Thats why companys regulary rehaul their apps, the design and corperate identity. It always end with some people becoming unhappy, but hopefully more people being happy.
- peatmoss 8y ago
  Change for change’s sake. I feel like F/OSS has a potential advantage here in being able to take the time to build durable, long-lived, stable software. The web-everything world we live in right now has led to a cambrian explosion in new UI metaphors and visual design. I can only hope at some point we all wake up and decide that GNUMail running on GNU Hurd has gotten really stable, and that maybe we should all just re-adopt open protocols and native apps.
RichardCA 8y ago
Their culture seems to be based on rotating new product managers in every 2-3 years. It's logical that a new manger will want to make their mark and prove they "did something".

quickthrower2 8y ago

That splash screen is pretty noisy if you have a touch of synesthesia.

megakid 8y ago

100% agree, infact I now use it as an example to our CTO who is absolutely deadset on actively spending time on replacing our inhouse expert UI frontends (currently written in native UIs, blazing fast etc) with web frontends. Yes they can be effective + fast, but telling a room of native devs to convert everything to web will end badly if not given the proper support.

html5web 8y ago

I describe it as too slow too. I wonder if they tested it before pushing it live to the world.

pyman 8y ago
Countries, areas or users with slow internet connections should be given the option to use the classic UI, which in my case was much faster. I guess the way Google works is: let’s ship something quickly(1) and then slowly(2) improve it. (1) quickly: 2 years (2) slowly: 4 years

dvfjsdhgfv 8y ago

It's the final straw for me. I mean, for me Gmail was an important tool for daily business. I choose this tool for certain reasons, but now that most of them are gone, why stick to it? I'm migrating my accounts right now and it's actually fun. One thing I still don't understand is why they wouldn't let people to use the old interface. Come on, it's just the UI, why force your taste on everyone?

Guest9812398 8y ago

This seems to be the case for most Google services. I use Google DoubleClick, AdSense, and Analytics, and they seem to get slower, and more clunky with every update. I was using DoubleClick yesterday, and I was waiting about 10 seconds for every page to load. Then I searched for help on a topic and I was sent to the Google product forums, which nearly offered an equally poor experience. The frustration reminded me of my years with dial-up, even though it's 20 years in the future, and I have an 80 Mb/s internet connection. And of course the most basic features don't always work correctly with Google services now, such as being able to open a link in a new window, or being able to navigate without the back button breaking in some way. Without question, Google services are the worst I currently use in my daily life. I would honestly be embarrassed to have my name attached to many of their products.