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"all politicians". Nope. They are not all the same in how they handle the press. Obama, for instance, once said some things indicating he was 'irritated' with

by davidw 8y ago

"all politicians". Nope. They are not all the same in how they handle the press. Obama, for instance, once said some things indicating he was 'irritated' with Fox News. Trump thinks the press - the one mentioned in the 1st amendment of the US constitution - is an "enemy of the people" and has said so loudly. So no, they're not all the same. I mean, I'm sure they'd all love it if the press fawned over them 24/7, but there are big differences between a Trump, Erdogan or Maduro, and, say, an Obama or McCain.

mc32 8y ago
The prev admin prosecuted more leakers than any prev admin, current admin believes “ fake news” rather than “the press” are the enemy of the people. Now, I know they have their biased method to classify unbiased press from biased, but your assertion just reinforces their claim because you’re conflating one with the other, as most news are wont to do. Doing themselves little favor. A fair question is to ask whether biased news or a biased press are preferable over a more neutral (non partisan) press. If a biased press is not an issue, then “interference” from foreing interests are less of a problem, unless they are for reasons, categorized differently —-however, they would seem to be overarchingly about bias, except one is domestic and one is foreign.
- s73v3r_ 8y ago
  "current admin believes “ fake news” rather than “the press” are the enemy of the people." But they also define "fake news" to be any outlet that isn't praising them constantly.
  - mc32 8y ago
    Yes, that’s pretty much true and of course it’s regrettable. But on the other hand even news that like to think themselves as neutral, say NPR, will, when interviewing a partisan follow the pattern thus: When interviewing liberals, don’t follow forcefully up on omissions or questinsble assertions. When interviewing a conservative (regular, not Trumpist) will bring up omissions or will follow up on questionable assettions more forcefully. Regarding campaiging, they will embed more with liberal candidates and follow progress more than with conservative candidates. I’d be happy to know I’m wrong, but this is my take listening to NPR regularly.
    - s73v3r_ 8y ago
      I can't say I can agree with that in the slightest, especially regarding NPR. I would say that they refuse to follow up on those assertions with conservatives quite often. As far as embedding, I believe that is at the discretion of the campaign.
  - oh_sigh 8y ago
    No, they don't - I think they define 'fake news' as any outlet that only runs 100% negative analysis and opinion on the administration.
    - s73v3r_ 8y ago
      Which is clearly an incorrect definition of the term. Fox News was only negative on Obama, yet I never heard him say they were the enemy of the people.

by davidw 8y ago

mc32 8y ago

The prev admin prosecuted more leakers than any prev admin, current admin believes “ fake news” rather than “the press” are the enemy of the people. Now, I know they have their biased method to classify unbiased press from biased, but your assertion just reinforces their claim because you’re conflating one with the other, as most news are wont to do. Doing themselves little favor. A fair question is to ask whether biased news or a biased press are preferable over a more neutral (non partisan) press. If a biased press is not an issue, then “interference” from foreing interests are less of a problem, unless they are for reasons, categorized differently —-however, they would seem to be overarchingly about bias, except one is domestic and one is foreign.

s73v3r_ 8y ago
"current admin believes “ fake news” rather than “the press” are the enemy of the people." But they also define "fake news" to be any outlet that isn't praising them constantly.
- mc32 8y ago
  Yes, that’s pretty much true and of course it’s regrettable. But on the other hand even news that like to think themselves as neutral, say NPR, will, when interviewing a partisan follow the pattern thus: When interviewing liberals, don’t follow forcefully up on omissions or questinsble assertions. When interviewing a conservative (regular, not Trumpist) will bring up omissions or will follow up on questionable assettions more forcefully. Regarding campaiging, they will embed more with liberal candidates and follow progress more than with conservative candidates. I’d be happy to know I’m wrong, but this is my take listening to NPR regularly.
  - s73v3r_ 8y ago
    I can't say I can agree with that in the slightest, especially regarding NPR. I would say that they refuse to follow up on those assertions with conservatives quite often. As far as embedding, I believe that is at the discretion of the campaign.
- oh_sigh 8y ago
  No, they don't - I think they define 'fake news' as any outlet that only runs 100% negative analysis and opinion on the administration.
  - s73v3r_ 8y ago
    Which is clearly an incorrect definition of the term. Fox News was only negative on Obama, yet I never heard him say they were the enemy of the people.