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Tesla is a luxury car manufacturer and isn't competing with GM/Ford/etc.

by maratd 8y ago

rootusrootus 8y ago
Nothing Tesla makes is a luxury car. And to be honest, it's a stretch, even with the Model S, to call them premium cars (like Audi, BMW, Mercedes, etc). And the Model 3 is an economy car. They just happen to be pretty expensive due to the technology. If anything, Tesla shouldn't have too much trouble beating the Fords, GMs, and Toyotas of the world in production -- they're just putting together batteries and electric motors, which is a good bit simpler than engineering an entire ICE drivetrain and getting it out the door successfully.
- rcMgD2BwE72F 8y ago
  Why make you own definition of the term ? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luxury_vehicle https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luxury_vehicle > Model S is listed there, is that a coincidence? The S and X are clearly in the luxury segment. Some people pay a very high premium for the pleasure to drive a quick electric luxury sedan. Which is completely unnecessary for their needs. All the owners I know are clearly in the luxury segment (coming from luxury ICEs). What you find desirable isn't everyone's pleasure. Maybe Tesla is just reinventing/killing the luxury segment, but that's another debate.
  - rootusrootus 8y ago
    Ha, just because Wikipedia says so doesn't make it true. People have been trying to call BMWs and such 'luxury cars' for a long time. BMW themselves wouldn't say that. They're premium cars. Luxury cars are things like Bentleys. What you're noticing is that everyone who can't afford a Bentley or Rolls-Royce would prefer to call their Audi a luxury car ;-).
  - tsomctl 8y ago
    This is a luxury vehicle: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsMViWFPv_U&feature=youtu.be&t=130 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsMViWFPv_U&feature=youtu.be... Or this: https://youtu.be/yq9IvgfLFgk?t=360 https://youtu.be/yq9IvgfLFgk?t=360
    - Retric 8y ago
      Those are Ultra-luxury/super luxury cars. The (Honda / Acura) or (Volkswagen / Audi) splits covers normal vs luxury brands by the same company. So a new luxury car segment starts around 35k even if you can pay more than that for a Honda Accord you still go to the Honda dealerships etc.

Tesla is a luxury car manufacturer and isn't competing with GM/Ford/etc.

by maratd 8y ago

Tesla is a luxury car manufacturer and isn't competing with GM/Ford/etc.

Nothing Tesla makes is a luxury car. And to be honest, it's a stretch, even with the Model S, to call them premium cars (like Audi, BMW, Mercedes, etc). And the Model 3 is an economy car. They just happen to be pretty expensive due to the technology. If anything, Tesla shouldn't have too much trouble beating the Fords, GMs, and Toyotas of the world in production -- they're just putting together batteries and electric motors, which is a good bit simpler than engineering an entire ICE drivetrain and getting it out the door successfully.

rcMgD2BwE72F 8y ago
Why make you own definition of the term ? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luxury_vehicle https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luxury_vehicle > Model S is listed there, is that a coincidence? The S and X are clearly in the luxury segment. Some people pay a very high premium for the pleasure to drive a quick electric luxury sedan. Which is completely unnecessary for their needs. All the owners I know are clearly in the luxury segment (coming from luxury ICEs). What you find desirable isn't everyone's pleasure. Maybe Tesla is just reinventing/killing the luxury segment, but that's another debate.
- rootusrootus 8y ago
  Ha, just because Wikipedia says so doesn't make it true. People have been trying to call BMWs and such 'luxury cars' for a long time. BMW themselves wouldn't say that. They're premium cars. Luxury cars are things like Bentleys. What you're noticing is that everyone who can't afford a Bentley or Rolls-Royce would prefer to call their Audi a luxury car ;-).
- tsomctl 8y ago
  This is a luxury vehicle: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsMViWFPv_U&feature=youtu.be&t=130 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsMViWFPv_U&feature=youtu.be... Or this: https://youtu.be/yq9IvgfLFgk?t=360 https://youtu.be/yq9IvgfLFgk?t=360
  - Retric 8y ago
    Those are Ultra-luxury/super luxury cars. The (Honda / Acura) or (Volkswagen / Audi) splits covers normal vs luxury brands by the same company. So a new luxury car segment starts around 35k even if you can pay more than that for a Honda Accord you still go to the Honda dealerships etc.