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Maybe not intentionally, but as much as SV companies like to talk about unconsious biases causing discrimination, it never gets applied to supposedly neutral co
by dx87 8y ago
Maybe not intentionally, but as much as SV companies like to talk about unconsious biases causing discrimination, it never gets applied to supposedly neutral companies like Google that are currently being sued for how they discriminate against conservatives and white males. If their internal culture is constantly promoting liberal political ideals, would it really suprise you if the developers subconsciously create their products in a way that suppresses ideas they don't agree with? The same thing happened with Twitter where they were preventing only Republican Congress people from showing up on the news feed. They claimed to be neutral, yet somehow managed to implement an algorithm that affected 0 Democratic Congress people and a couple dozen Republican Congress people. Hopefully "Oops, it was the algorithm discriminating, not us" goes away as an excuse people accept.
- s73v3r_ 8y agoIf you've got proof that they're actually discriminating against conservatives for conservative opinions, and not for expressing bigotry, then I'd like to see it. Cause just about every one of these cases that I've seen is someone claiming that they're expressing "conservative" opinions, when in reality they're expressing anti-LGBT equality or anti-women views. I'm not seeing anyone get fired over their opinions on the capital gains tax, for example.
- antimatter 8y agoThe definition of bigotry has tilted so far to the radical left that expressing simple, widely expected scientific findings get you labeled as a bigot/racist/sexist/alt-right/etc. The issue is not that they are discriminating against just conservative policy or thought. It is that any and all disagreement with radical leftist ideology is considered some form of hate speech in need of censorship.
- s73v3r_ 8y agoNo, don't give me that weaseling out crap. Put up or shut up. Either you have evidence of them discriminating against conservatives for actual conservative opinions, or you don't.
- fzeroracer 8y agoI don't think it has at all. Can you explain some of these widely expected scientific findings that would get you labelled as a bigot or racist?
- jlawson 8y agoJust read the Damore memo. The response inside Google was "I will keep hounding you until one of us is fired. Fuck you." And Damore was fired for the memo; the person who wrote those words stayed on.
- fzeroracer 8y agoThe Damore piece was blatantly filled with dog whistles and bunk science claims (specifically drawing a bunch of correlations) while also ignoring the history of software development / computer science as a whole. It should be telling that after the fact he chose to idolize the KKK and proceeded to dox a bunch of Google employees for incredibly tame remarks in his class action lawsuit (of which I saw many images make the rounds in the alt-right media centralizing said information for obvious reasons). Regardless his memo which he chose to release internally caused a massive divide among employees a Google. If Damore was kept on I imagine you would've saw a lot of talent proceed to leave the company. Additionally it's funny that you bring that up, considering there are a lot of people on the left that work at Google and feel like their views are being stymied.
- s73v3r_ 8y agoYou’ve just made my point that all these examples of “anti-conservative bias” are really just bigoted or mysogynistic positions that are dressed up with junk science.
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- Aunche 8y agoI wouldn't find it suprising if Google punished conservative fake news more than liberal fake news. That said, I trust them infinitely more than the government. That's a huge conflict of interest, and the government has never been good at remaining impartial about anything. Just look at gerrymandering.