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Things bounced back petty quickly. It only took about 80 years for us to start having access to good beer again. More seriously - I don't think organized crime

Things bounced back petty quickly. It only took about 80 years for us to start having access to good beer again. More seriously - I don't think organized crime went away. It was a big problem before prohibition, and it continued to be a big problem after. However, it may have been weakened by the loss of an extremely profitable revenue source. Alcoholism dropped precipitously during prohibition, and started coming back again after it ended. Given that the US has a huge problem with drunk driving, one could probably make a cogent argument that, with the repeal of prohibition, we replaced a relatively small but sensational amount of organized crime with a large, but relatively socially acceptable, amount of disorganized crime. One might presume that other crimes that tend to go hand-in-hand with alcohol, such as domestic and sexual assault, also got a boost from the repeal. I'm not sure how well any of this applies to marijuana. With marijuana, the worst (non-government-imposed) externalities seem to be related to how gangs behave when they're financed by the illegal marijuana trade. With alcohol, the organized crime was a problem, but the worst problems seemed (and seem) to be a direct result of how people behave when they've been drinking. One common thread, though, is that opposition to both bans seems to be a reaction to government overreach as much as anything else. The penalties being handed down for alcohol possession were every bit as outrageous as the ones we see for marijuana possession nowadays, and that played a big part in public perception of the law.

dsfyu404ed 8y ago
Excuse me but the wet lawn mower clippings mixed with cinnamon and spicy chai with a shot of 5w40 for texture that is currently in vogue is not "good beer". I want a beer I can drink, not one I have to endure.
- bunderbunder 8y ago
  Come east. This side of the mountains, hops are still in vogue, but we have some breweries that like to make well balanced beers, too.
- cmrdporcupine 8y ago
  It's why I just drink cider now. Hard to find quality ones, but when I do they don't involve getting punched in the face with hops.
  - stevehawk 8y ago
    I live in a tiny town with a surprisingly popular brewery with ~8-10 beers on tap. IPAs. Every. Damn. One. Of. Them. And my local beer shop switched distributors so now I can't get my preferred beer (Prairie Bomb!).
    - bunderbunder 8y ago
      Might as well continue this tangent. I haven't lost nearly enough karma on it yet. :) I think that, if you're going to be a very small brewery that has that many different beers, they basically have to all be IPAs. The high alcohol content will help make the beer more resistant to going stale, and the hoppiness will cover all the flaws and consistency issues that you're very likely to have if your brewmaster is spreading themself that thin. By contrast, if you're making something like a helles lager, any problems you have with finicky things like the mash or the primary fermentation will to have nowhere to hide.
    - Sohcahtoa82 8y ago
      My tongue-in-cheek feeling on IPAs: They're two circlejerks in one. The first is the part of the brewery, where they try to stuff as much hops into the brew as possible to try to get the IBUs into the triple digits. The other is on the part of the drinkers that will drink the nastiest stuff in the world and claim to enjoy it. I bet I could take a scoop out of the bottom of a port-a-potty, put it in a bottle, slap a "HONEY BUCKET SEXTUPLE IPA" label on it, and some IPA fans would take a swig, vomit, and while continuing to dry heave, claim it's the best beer they've ever had. As always, there's a relevant XKCD: https://xkcd.com/1534/ https://xkcd.com/1534/ I found I really like Gose. They're sweet, tart, fruity, and very little bitterness. IBU often in the single digits. But even with a good Gose, I can't drink more than two before getting tired of the taste, not like a soft drink like a soda or Gatorade.
- moate 8y ago
  Then drink <insert whatever beer you like> and let other people enjoy things without feeling that your non sequitur is going to be appreciated. Ta da!
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DenisM 8y ago
Organize crime is corrosive to society as a whole, in particular the power structures, whereas drunk driving leaves the social structure intact, at the expense of perhaps more deaths.
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cannabisceo 8y ago
Organized crime still runs alcohol. Many mafiosos have come into cannabis from alcohol in the last two years. By alcohol I'm not only referring to the bottlers but also the distributors, bars, and night clubs.

dsfyu404ed 8y ago

Excuse me but the wet lawn mower clippings mixed with cinnamon and spicy chai with a shot of 5w40 for texture that is currently in vogue is not "good beer". I want a beer I can drink, not one I have to endure.

bunderbunder 8y ago
Come east. This side of the mountains, hops are still in vogue, but we have some breweries that like to make well balanced beers, too.
cmrdporcupine 8y ago
It's why I just drink cider now. Hard to find quality ones, but when I do they don't involve getting punched in the face with hops.
- stevehawk 8y ago
  I live in a tiny town with a surprisingly popular brewery with ~8-10 beers on tap. IPAs. Every. Damn. One. Of. Them. And my local beer shop switched distributors so now I can't get my preferred beer (Prairie Bomb!).
  - bunderbunder 8y ago
    Might as well continue this tangent. I haven't lost nearly enough karma on it yet. :) I think that, if you're going to be a very small brewery that has that many different beers, they basically have to all be IPAs. The high alcohol content will help make the beer more resistant to going stale, and the hoppiness will cover all the flaws and consistency issues that you're very likely to have if your brewmaster is spreading themself that thin. By contrast, if you're making something like a helles lager, any problems you have with finicky things like the mash or the primary fermentation will to have nowhere to hide.
  - Sohcahtoa82 8y ago
    My tongue-in-cheek feeling on IPAs: They're two circlejerks in one. The first is the part of the brewery, where they try to stuff as much hops into the brew as possible to try to get the IBUs into the triple digits. The other is on the part of the drinkers that will drink the nastiest stuff in the world and claim to enjoy it. I bet I could take a scoop out of the bottom of a port-a-potty, put it in a bottle, slap a "HONEY BUCKET SEXTUPLE IPA" label on it, and some IPA fans would take a swig, vomit, and while continuing to dry heave, claim it's the best beer they've ever had. As always, there's a relevant XKCD: https://xkcd.com/1534/ https://xkcd.com/1534/ I found I really like Gose. They're sweet, tart, fruity, and very little bitterness. IBU often in the single digits. But even with a good Gose, I can't drink more than two before getting tired of the taste, not like a soft drink like a soda or Gatorade.
moate 8y ago
Then drink <insert whatever beer you like> and let other people enjoy things without feeling that your non sequitur is going to be appreciated. Ta da!
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DenisM 8y ago

Organize crime is corrosive to society as a whole, in particular the power structures, whereas drunk driving leaves the social structure intact, at the expense of perhaps more deaths.

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cannabisceo 8y ago

Organized crime still runs alcohol. Many mafiosos have come into cannabis from alcohol in the last two years. By alcohol I'm not only referring to the bottlers but also the distributors, bars, and night clubs.