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Yes, they’re all complicit, to different degrees. Even the janitors and cooks are complicit when they support unethical enterprises. If any Facebook engineer s

Yes, they’re all complicit, to different degrees. Even the janitors and cooks are complicit when they support unethical enterprises. If any Facebook engineer suddenly acquired some moral sense, he should spend his time working to sabotage the company from within. Some have walked away; others have walked away and publicly spoken about facebook’s dubious culture. Now it’s time to see some sabotage.

harlanji 8y ago
I was with you until sabotage. It’s spending energy maliciously when as you say, there are plentiful options. Non aggression principle rules.
- antonkm 8y ago
  Whistleblowing would be a good middle-ground here. Also, I don't think sabotage would be as efficient since FB would just restore everything in an instant. The problem with whistleblowing is that the consequences need to be more direct and actually leave a dent. As it is right now, FB can absorb pretty much any fines they're hit with.
  - realreality 8y ago
    Think creatively! For instance, make sure that backups silently corrupt data. Someone could also lace the salad in the salad bar with arsenic.
    - sctb 8y ago
      You've gone off into uncivil territory—please don't. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
      - realreality 8y ago
        I was offering creative suggestions. What I said wasn’t anything I’d avoid saying in person, nor did I have any ill will toward the commenter I replied to.
- realreality 8y ago
  No need for “aggression”. The CIA wrote a sabotage manual, which involved things like “forgetting” to lubricate wheels, spending lots of time in meetings which go nowhere, slowing down and getting distracted while working, etc. I consider all of the energy being spent in the maintenance of facebook to be malicious. If a datacenter caved in because of a structural flaw in the building, then that’s a lot less energy going into supporting facebook. How many datacenters would have to cave in before they wouldn’t be able to recover? https://www.businessinsider.com/cia-manual-sabotage-productivity-2016-6/#how-to-be-the-worst-possible-leader-1 https://www.businessinsider.com/cia-manual-sabotage-producti...

harlanji 8y ago

I was with you until sabotage. It’s spending energy maliciously when as you say, there are plentiful options. Non aggression principle rules.

antonkm 8y ago
Whistleblowing would be a good middle-ground here. Also, I don't think sabotage would be as efficient since FB would just restore everything in an instant. The problem with whistleblowing is that the consequences need to be more direct and actually leave a dent. As it is right now, FB can absorb pretty much any fines they're hit with.
- realreality 8y ago
  Think creatively! For instance, make sure that backups silently corrupt data. Someone could also lace the salad in the salad bar with arsenic.
  - sctb 8y ago
    You've gone off into uncivil territory—please don't. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
    - realreality 8y ago
      I was offering creative suggestions. What I said wasn’t anything I’d avoid saying in person, nor did I have any ill will toward the commenter I replied to.
realreality 8y ago
No need for “aggression”. The CIA wrote a sabotage manual, which involved things like “forgetting” to lubricate wheels, spending lots of time in meetings which go nowhere, slowing down and getting distracted while working, etc. I consider all of the energy being spent in the maintenance of facebook to be malicious. If a datacenter caved in because of a structural flaw in the building, then that’s a lot less energy going into supporting facebook. How many datacenters would have to cave in before they wouldn’t be able to recover? https://www.businessinsider.com/cia-manual-sabotage-productivity-2016-6/#how-to-be-the-worst-possible-leader-1 https://www.businessinsider.com/cia-manual-sabotage-producti...