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> If you're an end user, the net gain of that openness is zero, and at times it's even a loss I have about 15 home screen widgets, an alternative dialer, alter

by zmmmmm 16y ago

> If you're an end user, the net gain of that openness is zero, and at times it's even a loss I have about 15 home screen widgets, an alternative dialer, alternative browser and a bunch of other programs that would never be allowed on iOS that beg to differ.

danilocampos 16y ago
I mean, to each his own – but having three steering wheels in my car wouldn't be sufficient incentive to drive something that blasted "SPRINT!" at me every time I opened the door. Pick the platform you like, by all means, but what you mentioned is more about design decisions than true "openness."
lzw 16y ago
For the masses, who buy everything thru the appstore, Apple controls the experience. But this does not make iOS "closed". You can get whatever widgets you want built using web technologies, and they run like apps. And if you're a developer, you can put whatever programs you want on your device. Since all the open advocates should be advocating open source as well, why complain about iOS? IF you want to put open source software on your device, you can just compile it. Apple gives you the development tools for free (the core of which is itself open source) and charges $99 for handling the certificates an authentication for apps. But you can put any app you want on your iPhone if you're a developer. IF you're a consumer, you're not capable of compiling apps for your android phone either anyway. (For some values of "developer" here I'm including enthusiasts who may not really be able to program but are find with compiling code.)
- zmmmmm 16y ago
  > You can get whatever widgets you want built using web technologies, and they run like apps You must not know what a widget actually is. Unless there's been some startling update to iOS what you are referring to is nothing like an Android widget.
ladon86 16y ago
I have an alternative dialler and an Opera browser on my iphone which I downloaded from the App Store. Quite a few rules have changed on iOS, so both the examples you gave are allowed and available.

by zmmmmm 16y ago

danilocampos 16y ago

I mean, to each his own – but having three steering wheels in my car wouldn't be sufficient incentive to drive something that blasted "SPRINT!" at me every time I opened the door. Pick the platform you like, by all means, but what you mentioned is more about design decisions than true "openness."

lzw 16y ago

For the masses, who buy everything thru the appstore, Apple controls the experience. But this does not make iOS "closed". You can get whatever widgets you want built using web technologies, and they run like apps. And if you're a developer, you can put whatever programs you want on your device. Since all the open advocates should be advocating open source as well, why complain about iOS? IF you want to put open source software on your device, you can just compile it. Apple gives you the development tools for free (the core of which is itself open source) and charges $99 for handling the certificates an authentication for apps. But you can put any app you want on your iPhone if you're a developer. IF you're a consumer, you're not capable of compiling apps for your android phone either anyway. (For some values of "developer" here I'm including enthusiasts who may not really be able to program but are find with compiling code.)

zmmmmm 16y ago
> You can get whatever widgets you want built using web technologies, and they run like apps You must not know what a widget actually is. Unless there's been some startling update to iOS what you are referring to is nothing like an Android widget.

ladon86 16y ago

I have an alternative dialler and an Opera browser on my iphone which I downloaded from the App Store. Quite a few rules have changed on iOS, so both the examples you gave are allowed and available.