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Phoenix area here - drone nuisance an occasional but non-negligible problem here too. Sometimes they're a minor annoyance [e.g., 4th of July fireworks viewing],
by MisterOctober 8y ago
Phoenix area here - drone nuisance an occasional but non-negligible problem here too. Sometimes they're a minor annoyance [e.g., 4th of July fireworks viewing], and sometimes genuinely creepy [hovering over backyards in my neighborhood, sometimes at night]
I observe that the majority of drone owners use them with a mind to avoid making others ill-at-ease, but y'know, tragedy of the commons and all that
- Jedd 8y agoNot really tragedy of the commons.
- andybak 8y agoIf the resource is peace and privacy then "tragedy of the commons" seems like a reasonable metaphor. Can you post in a little more detail as just prefixing the bit you disagree with with "not" isn't terribly useful.
- Jedd 8y agoIf resource was peace and privacy (those aren't resources), and they were zero-sum, then it'd arguably be tragedy of the commons. People being dicks and drawing unwanted regulatory attention towards themselves and other people ... is just people being dicks. I appreciate that 'tragedy of the commons' is a very hip phrasing these days, but its usefulness benefits from not being misused.
- ken 8y ago"Resource" (Merriam-Webster), definition 1c: "a natural feature or phenomenon that enhances the quality of human life". I would say silence does indeed meet this definition.
- Jedd 8y ago> If resource was peace and privacy (those aren't resources), and they were zero-sum Not to say I agree with your dubious attempt at bringing 'silence' into the fold of 'resource'. When you start mining silence by the barrel from deep space, then we can start treating it as a commodity resource.
- andybak 8y agoA resource can be locally limited despite being globally (or universally) unlimited. Energy for example (to a certain degree) Also I'm not sure "zero sum" is the same thing as "limited". The former imposes stricter requirements. I'm sticking to my guns on this one.
- Jedd 8y agoI can't consume all the available quiet and therefore prevent you from having any.
- andybak 8y agoYou can consume all the quiet in specific area at a specific time. If that's not a limited resource then nothing is.
- Jedd 8y ago> You can consume all the quiet in specific area at a specific time. If that's not a limited resource then nothing is. a) I don't know how you'd measure 'all the quiet' to determine that I'd consumed all there was. b) even if I did, it doesn't prevent you from consuming as much (up to all) of 'the quiet' as you wanted, too. Which brings us back to why it's not a tragedy of the commons, and why the analogy doesn't work either.