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> I hope for Space X and Tesla's sake that the reports of a directory and Executive ban don't come true. Why? Because Elon is a special snowflake and deserves

> I hope for Space X and Tesla's sake that the reports of a directory and Executive ban don't come true. Why? Because Elon is a special snowflake and deserves a different treatment than other white-collar criminals?

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hef19898 8y ago
Absolutely not, when and if he is found guilty of market manipulation then be it, he deserves everything that coming his way. If not then, well not. It would just be pitty that hubris has destroyed a great legacy in that case. And, even more troubling, with Tesla basically being Musk its future, and that of its employees, looks rather grim all things considered. Best thing for Tesla would be if Musk was not found guilty and stepped down none the less. I don't see that happening so. SpaceX should be fine I think, even without him.
55555 8y ago
How about because nobody should be able to go from perfectly fine to having ruined their life* in under 30 seconds. you have one dumb thought, open twitter on your phone, push tweet, and it's over. That's not an ability people should have. We are impulsive and often dumb.
- gurumeditations 8y ago
  He’s a big boy.
- Slartie 8y ago
  He was perfectly fine to surrender his CEO position at Tesla (and any position of power in any other company he is in) in order to get rid of this "ability". He did not. Certain positions of power just come with the ability to ruin your life in seconds. Some even can ruin the life of others in milliseconds. You cannot cushion these people from these facts. If they cannot deal with that, they should surrender the power. The concept is called responsibility.
- fipple 8y ago
  People go from perfectly fine to having ruined their life by jaywalking.
- josefx 8y ago
  They are referencing other tweets and statements by him. So it isn't a single bad decision that lead to this. It is a constant flow of bad decisions run over several months. People in important positions really should put a legal/marketing department between themselves and their twitter account.
- dirkgently 8y ago
  Like that guy Elon accused of being a pedophile in under 30 seconds?
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- toast0 8y ago
  He had his dumb thought, broadcast it, and then continued to publicly support his dumb thought for days. I know it's great to be a CEO and say anything you want on Twitter, but you should at least run it by PR and IR first, because they're going to get asked about it. And maybe someone says 'Hey Elon, that's not actually true.' or ' Hey Elon, you can't post that while the market is open.' or 'Dude, we have to send this to the SEC and wait 10 minutes, dummy'
- shanghaiaway 8y ago
  Elon Musk is being sued for market manipulation.
uxcolumbo 8y ago
The difference with him is he is trying to move humanity forward and truly improve things and helping to secure our long term survival. Those short sellers don't care about any of that, they only care about making money and it's understandable that Musk is trying to find ways to ruin their game. Musk should have run this type of tweet by his close business friends / counsel. I hope he will only get a slap on the wrist for this. We need companies like Tesla, SpaceX or The Boring Company.
- techstrategist 8y ago
  Musk is trying to make money, and he says that he is trying to move humanity forward to secure our long term survival. This may very well be true. However, similar statements are often made by people committing scams in order to give investors and the public an excuse to ignore serious signs of fraud. Anyone who gives him a free pass because of his claims of saving humanity is potentially making an enormous mistake. On the other hand, if he really is saving humanity, he should also be able to comply with the law.
  - uxcolumbo 8y ago
    I don't think he's a scammer at all - I think to him money is just a tool to achieve his mission, i.e. solving tough problems. But I agree - he shouldn't have tweeted that and he should have consulted his business partners first.
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- joering2 8y ago
  You shouldn't be allowed to share this opinion, as you have never owned a single share of stock. Why don't you buy some, wait till you lose some money, then come back and tell us you feel good because, you know, the company pushes humanity forward. Musk wasn't raising money for humanity sake; he was raising money to found his company and doing so he agreed to be bound by the rules that such market created. You don't like these rules? Sure go see your senator to change the rules and allow companies "moving humanity forward" to do or say whatever they want to when they are exchange listed. The problem is if that would to happen, nobody would invest a dime in such company because people don't invest their money into pushing humanity forward, but rather to multiply their hard earned cash. And how the fuck is building rockets pushing humanity forward? We are not going to leave Earth en masse; With his behavior of "fuck Earth I will move everyone to Mars and adopt your body to live in Martian atmosphere", Musk is actually pushing humanity backwards. I recently saw someone on highway throwing away empty cigarette pack. It happens we pulled over on the same gas station I asked him about literring to what he answers "Dude, Musk throw away a car into space and you have a problem with me? why the heck should I care about some cigarette box thrown out of window".
SmellyGeekBoy 8y ago
With the US's record on white collar crime, charging him and actually punishing him would make him the "special snowflake".

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hef19898 8y ago

Absolutely not, when and if he is found guilty of market manipulation then be it, he deserves everything that coming his way. If not then, well not. It would just be pitty that hubris has destroyed a great legacy in that case. And, even more troubling, with Tesla basically being Musk its future, and that of its employees, looks rather grim all things considered. Best thing for Tesla would be if Musk was not found guilty and stepped down none the less. I don't see that happening so. SpaceX should be fine I think, even without him.

55555 8y ago

How about because nobody should be able to go from perfectly fine to having ruined their life* in under 30 seconds. you have one dumb thought, open twitter on your phone, push tweet, and it's over. That's not an ability people should have. We are impulsive and often dumb.

gurumeditations 8y ago
He’s a big boy.
Slartie 8y ago
He was perfectly fine to surrender his CEO position at Tesla (and any position of power in any other company he is in) in order to get rid of this "ability". He did not. Certain positions of power just come with the ability to ruin your life in seconds. Some even can ruin the life of others in milliseconds. You cannot cushion these people from these facts. If they cannot deal with that, they should surrender the power. The concept is called responsibility.
fipple 8y ago
People go from perfectly fine to having ruined their life by jaywalking.
josefx 8y ago
They are referencing other tweets and statements by him. So it isn't a single bad decision that lead to this. It is a constant flow of bad decisions run over several months. People in important positions really should put a legal/marketing department between themselves and their twitter account.
dirkgently 8y ago
Like that guy Elon accused of being a pedophile in under 30 seconds?
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toast0 8y ago
He had his dumb thought, broadcast it, and then continued to publicly support his dumb thought for days. I know it's great to be a CEO and say anything you want on Twitter, but you should at least run it by PR and IR first, because they're going to get asked about it. And maybe someone says 'Hey Elon, that's not actually true.' or ' Hey Elon, you can't post that while the market is open.' or 'Dude, we have to send this to the SEC and wait 10 minutes, dummy'
shanghaiaway 8y ago
Elon Musk is being sued for market manipulation.

uxcolumbo 8y ago

The difference with him is he is trying to move humanity forward and truly improve things and helping to secure our long term survival. Those short sellers don't care about any of that, they only care about making money and it's understandable that Musk is trying to find ways to ruin their game. Musk should have run this type of tweet by his close business friends / counsel. I hope he will only get a slap on the wrist for this. We need companies like Tesla, SpaceX or The Boring Company.

techstrategist 8y ago
Musk is trying to make money, and he says that he is trying to move humanity forward to secure our long term survival. This may very well be true. However, similar statements are often made by people committing scams in order to give investors and the public an excuse to ignore serious signs of fraud. Anyone who gives him a free pass because of his claims of saving humanity is potentially making an enormous mistake. On the other hand, if he really is saving humanity, he should also be able to comply with the law.
- uxcolumbo 8y ago
  I don't think he's a scammer at all - I think to him money is just a tool to achieve his mission, i.e. solving tough problems. But I agree - he shouldn't have tweeted that and he should have consulted his business partners first.
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joering2 8y ago
You shouldn't be allowed to share this opinion, as you have never owned a single share of stock. Why don't you buy some, wait till you lose some money, then come back and tell us you feel good because, you know, the company pushes humanity forward. Musk wasn't raising money for humanity sake; he was raising money to found his company and doing so he agreed to be bound by the rules that such market created. You don't like these rules? Sure go see your senator to change the rules and allow companies "moving humanity forward" to do or say whatever they want to when they are exchange listed. The problem is if that would to happen, nobody would invest a dime in such company because people don't invest their money into pushing humanity forward, but rather to multiply their hard earned cash. And how the fuck is building rockets pushing humanity forward? We are not going to leave Earth en masse; With his behavior of "fuck Earth I will move everyone to Mars and adopt your body to live in Martian atmosphere", Musk is actually pushing humanity backwards. I recently saw someone on highway throwing away empty cigarette pack. It happens we pulled over on the same gas station I asked him about literring to what he answers "Dude, Musk throw away a car into space and you have a problem with me? why the heck should I care about some cigarette box thrown out of window".

SmellyGeekBoy 8y ago

With the US's record on white collar crime, charging him and actually punishing him would make him the "special snowflake".