I would argue that a lot of those things are true for current BMWs as well. They've fallen below the quality targets that I expect for their price and their bas

I would argue that a lot of those things are true for current BMWs as well. They've fallen below the quality targets that I expect for their price and their base prices are too high. I'm not sure that the summation of that would be that the "product is not good", though. It just means that some aspects of it are disappointing.