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> If Elon Musk is removed as CEO at Tesla, Tesla is over. What if Tesla's progress wasn't because of Musk, but in spite of Musk? He's chased away dozens of key

> If Elon Musk is removed as CEO at Tesla, Tesla is over. What if Tesla's progress wasn't because of Musk, but in spite of Musk? He's chased away dozens of key people and his intolerance for criticism is well known. Apart from attracting cash, do you really think his contribution to the operation was that significant? > I find it curious that an innovative American company pushing to help our carbon problem by going electric is so lambasted, shorted, constantly under attack. Working towards a worthwhile cause does not mean nobody can call you out on bullshit. And he bullshits a lot.

mtgx 8y ago
> What if Tesla's progress want because of Musk, but in spite of Musk No way that's true. No way. If you believe that then you must also believe SpaceX and him leading the company to create re-usable rockets was also just a fluke. So Musk somehow just stumbled upon a highly successful, innovative, and cost-effective private rocket company, while also stumbling upon the first new American company to survive (for now, and as long as it has) in the car market in 100 years and also one that happens to build EVs from scratch. Musk must have one hell of a luck to keep stumbling upon these sort of companies that "could have succeeded even without him."
- ckastner 8y ago
  SpaceX is a genuine astounding success, no doubt about it. My opinion is that this success has clouded his judgment. "Everybody told me SpaceX can't work, and I made it work. Everybody is telling me $THING at Tesla can't work, therefore I know I'll make it work, and everybody else must be wrong". SpaceX was a novel endeavor. Building a car production plant is not.
- gamblor956 8y ago
  Elon Musk doesn't run the day-to-day at SpaceX. That's been someone else, Gwynne Shotwell, for several years, and everyone credits her with getting SpaceX on track and meeting its contractual deadlines--which was something it wasn't managing when Musk was in charge.

mtgx 8y ago

> What if Tesla's progress want because of Musk, but in spite of Musk No way that's true. No way. If you believe that then you must also believe SpaceX and him leading the company to create re-usable rockets was also just a fluke. So Musk somehow just stumbled upon a highly successful, innovative, and cost-effective private rocket company, while also stumbling upon the first new American company to survive (for now, and as long as it has) in the car market in 100 years and also one that happens to build EVs from scratch. Musk must have one hell of a luck to keep stumbling upon these sort of companies that "could have succeeded even without him."

ckastner 8y ago
SpaceX is a genuine astounding success, no doubt about it. My opinion is that this success has clouded his judgment. "Everybody told me SpaceX can't work, and I made it work. Everybody is telling me $THING at Tesla can't work, therefore I know I'll make it work, and everybody else must be wrong". SpaceX was a novel endeavor. Building a car production plant is not.
gamblor956 8y ago
Elon Musk doesn't run the day-to-day at SpaceX. That's been someone else, Gwynne Shotwell, for several years, and everyone credits her with getting SpaceX on track and meeting its contractual deadlines--which was something it wasn't managing when Musk was in charge.