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Can anyone make a summary. I tried to skim quickly but I couldn't see any real reason. Thank you

• deleted 8y ago
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• geebee 8y ago
  It's worth reading through, I'd recommend it. It doesn't take long.
• AlexandrB 8y ago
  I can't tell if this is meant to be parody. The first essay is a bit high-level, but the second lays out some pretty specific, straightforward ways that women get the short end of the stick in the CS field: > It is more common for men to get credit for collaborative work than women, something I experienced when a student wrote in a publication draft that an idea of mine originated with a collaborator — even though progeny of the idea had never been discussed. If you don't care enough to read that far and then assume that this means there's no "real reason", I think that's the definition of willful ignorance.
  • sievebrain 8y ago
    That happens to men all the time too. Is there anything worth reading in these essays that is genuinely unique to women? Because so far it sounds like damore round two. The only form of unarguable, gender specific discrimination I see in computing is against men.
    • closetohome 8y ago
      Well known fact that men are all but extinct in tech because of militant feminists.
      • zimablue 8y ago
        Kind of a circular point here because the whole argument on the other side is that equal representation is not a good yardstick. What if it takes an incredible amount of unfairness and discrimination to get the ratio to 60 40? You'd still be making the same point that it's fine there are more men.
• idrios 8y ago
  A professor at U of Washington who's been been teaching for 32 years wrote an essay in response to James Damore's (Google-Memo guy) firing, saying that tech's culture is too silencing of opinions, and wrote an article using the thesis that there are fewer women than men in CS because women are less interested in CS than men [1]. In this article, 6 women in prominent CS roles each wrote essays in response. 1 is professor at the same school, says his thesis is wrong because the numbers are changing to be closer to equal (On a intro-to-code website for students K-8, genders were split 55/45 boys to girls). 2 is professor at the same school, says the gender gap happens because by not expecting girls to be programmers, then girls don't expect it of themselves, and when they do they don't get offered as much help, so it becomes self-fulfilling. 3 is PhD alum from the UW and lead data scientist at a startup, says girls often don't like CS because they feel unheard or taken advantage of, and that the article is a mean but ironic example of women's opinions being ignored. She also insinuates that the professor should be reprimanded for writing it. 4 is professor at the school, says discrimination (sexual harassment, unequal pay, condescending attitudes) are rampant in the field and make it hard for women to stay motivated. 5 is undergrad alum from the school with high honors & PhD student at Cornell, says girls lose interest because they're frequently undermined. She also thinks the wrong people get recommended to CS at a young age (e.g. kids who like computer games but not kids who like math). She says having supportive parents and good role models is necessary. 6 is undergrad alum from the school and software engineer at Microsoft who TA'd for the original professor, says it's hard to stay confident because the field is male-dominated, and that articles like these make it worse. Everyone agrees that the issue is very complicated, and says so in their essay. [1] https://quillette.com/2018/06/19/why-women-dont-code/ https://quillette.com/2018/06/19/why-women-dont-code/ edit: removed names of the responders
• gwbas1c 8y ago
  Each woman has a different opinion, summarizing would alter the authors' statements. I suggest skimming