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>>So I don't think there's someone from up top telling writers what to write... Why not? The military spent tens of millions of dollars to inject patriotism in

by moate 8y ago

>>So I don't think there's someone from up top telling writers what to write... Why not? The military spent tens of millions of dollars to inject patriotism into every sporting event as a way of advertising following 9/11. Stadiums weren't paying the Navy to do a flyover at halftime, it was the Navy paying for increased visibility. Seems just as likely that they have some clout/spending in film and television.

ravenstine 8y ago
Oh, I'm not completely dismissing the possibility. It's just something that I doubt because not only would it have come out(as we know of what the military has done), but they probably wouldn't need to do it in the first place. Why explicitly tell people to write propaganda when the state of politics and the media causes them to write it for you?
- mywittyname 8y ago
  > Why explicitly tell people to write propaganda when the state of politics and the media causes them to write it for you? Because political influence is valuable to people. Movies are the best way to ingrain a political narrative in such a way that it may persist for decades. If the next decade was full of movies casting the military as the antagonist, we know the long-term effects would be increased scrutiny on the military and reduced recruitment. This is why military injects themselves into the movie making process. They give production companies get access to billion dollar equipment and in return, the production company employs a host of high-ranking officers as "consultants" to ensure the film complies with the narrative they want to see. This is also why the Catholic church forced their way into the MPAA very early on. They wanted to ensure that movies portrayed Christian morals.
  - baud147258 8y ago
    > This is also why the Catholic church forced their way into the MPAA very early on. They wanted to ensure that movies portrayed Christian morals Well, that didn't lasted for long...

by moate 8y ago

ravenstine 8y ago

Oh, I'm not completely dismissing the possibility. It's just something that I doubt because not only would it have come out(as we know of what the military has done), but they probably wouldn't need to do it in the first place. Why explicitly tell people to write propaganda when the state of politics and the media causes them to write it for you?

mywittyname 8y ago
> Why explicitly tell people to write propaganda when the state of politics and the media causes them to write it for you? Because political influence is valuable to people. Movies are the best way to ingrain a political narrative in such a way that it may persist for decades. If the next decade was full of movies casting the military as the antagonist, we know the long-term effects would be increased scrutiny on the military and reduced recruitment. This is why military injects themselves into the movie making process. They give production companies get access to billion dollar equipment and in return, the production company employs a host of high-ranking officers as "consultants" to ensure the film complies with the narrative they want to see. This is also why the Catholic church forced their way into the MPAA very early on. They wanted to ensure that movies portrayed Christian morals.
- baud147258 8y ago
  > This is also why the Catholic church forced their way into the MPAA very early on. They wanted to ensure that movies portrayed Christian morals Well, that didn't lasted for long...