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>i don't understand why people make these kinds of criticisms. Because language age doesn't make a difference. People have to actually use the language, and th

>i don't understand why people make these kinds of criticisms. Because language age doesn't make a difference. People have to actually use the language, and this is a practical concern. If you were choosing to put a high school football player or an NFL player on your team right now it'd be an easy choice, wouldn't it?

mlevental 8y ago
>People have to actually use the language, and this is a practical concern. do they? is it in the rules of building languages and ecosystems that every new language has to be production ready from day 1? it is also possible that you can use it for hobby projects and that that's sufficient merit to talk about it and have posts about it too.
- bendmorris 8y ago
  What on earth are we comparing when discussing Nim vs. other languages, if not the language itself, in practice? Are we just discussing how good you feel about it? My point is, this is an actual deficiency that you need to consider when evaluating Nim, that isn't just a function of the language being new. For example, Zig is another option which puts any C libraries at your fingertips, without requiring bindings. If Nim had better interop (not just relatively good, but zero effort) this would no longer be a concern and you wouldn't need all of your libraries to be in Nim.
  - mlevental 8y ago
    >if not the language itself, in practice? ... >However, the ecosystems are not at all comparable. ......?
    - bendmorris 8y ago
      Not sure what you're getting at. People in this thread are discussing what it's like to use Nim, including its ecosystem, vs. other languages and ecosystems. You don't seem to have anything substantive to add to that other than that Nim is "new" which as I mentioned isn't relevant to the experience of actually using it.
      - mlevental 8y ago
        you asked about merits of the language itself. what does the ecosystem have to do with the language /itself/
kevin_thibedeau 8y ago
Go has a wealthy patron and a "rockstar" principal dev so it wins the popularity contest. Vue has also been playing third fiddle to the big boys for some time but people are coming around. There is no reason why Nim can't have its moment in the sun too.

mlevental 8y ago

>People have to actually use the language, and this is a practical concern. do they? is it in the rules of building languages and ecosystems that every new language has to be production ready from day 1? it is also possible that you can use it for hobby projects and that that's sufficient merit to talk about it and have posts about it too.

bendmorris 8y ago
What on earth are we comparing when discussing Nim vs. other languages, if not the language itself, in practice? Are we just discussing how good you feel about it? My point is, this is an actual deficiency that you need to consider when evaluating Nim, that isn't just a function of the language being new. For example, Zig is another option which puts any C libraries at your fingertips, without requiring bindings. If Nim had better interop (not just relatively good, but zero effort) this would no longer be a concern and you wouldn't need all of your libraries to be in Nim.
- mlevental 8y ago
  >if not the language itself, in practice? ... >However, the ecosystems are not at all comparable. ......?
  - bendmorris 8y ago
    Not sure what you're getting at. People in this thread are discussing what it's like to use Nim, including its ecosystem, vs. other languages and ecosystems. You don't seem to have anything substantive to add to that other than that Nim is "new" which as I mentioned isn't relevant to the experience of actually using it.
    - mlevental 8y ago
      you asked about merits of the language itself. what does the ecosystem have to do with the language /itself/

kevin_thibedeau 8y ago

Go has a wealthy patron and a "rockstar" principal dev so it wins the popularity contest. Vue has also been playing third fiddle to the big boys for some time but people are coming around. There is no reason why Nim can't have its moment in the sun too.