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That is only true if you see the list of things a person can learn how to do as a closed set. For instance, I really disliked maths in school. I've avoided ever

That is only true if you see the list of things a person can learn how to do as a closed set. For instance, I really disliked maths in school. I've avoided every software job posting that involved any maths (3D, statistics, etc). However, if I was given a job offer to work on a math-related product I deeply connected with, and that I felt I wanted to contribute, I'd probably be more interested in learning the math stuff I dumped from my brain years ago. I'm convinced this applies to most people in this industry. I think the issue we have nowadays is that most software companies are creating mediocre to shitty software that solves no real problem, but selling themselves as the next Google or Apple. Most engineers can see through the bullshit and thus don't feel connected to the product. Then it just becomes a contest for who can realistically write the code for the shitty product for the least pay.

chrisseaton 8y ago
You're suggesting companies build teams of amateurs with the hope that they can all pick up the skills amongst themselves as they go. If you have to for example build a new operating system kernel, or a new compiler, or implement a machine learning system, hiring a bunch of well-intentioned smart people with the vague idea that they can probably figure it out as they go is a bad idea. You sometimes need someone with a track record of being able to do the work you need done.
- lfowles 8y ago
  That someone didn't come fully formed and ready for OS development out of the womb. It's a good argument for looking at track record when hiring for senior positions though. I've been interested in many fields, but can't afford to take time to establish myself in them unless there is also significant interest from a company looking to hire me.
- mixmastamyk 8y ago
  The market for new OS kernels or compilers is approaching zero.

chrisseaton 8y ago

You're suggesting companies build teams of amateurs with the hope that they can all pick up the skills amongst themselves as they go. If you have to for example build a new operating system kernel, or a new compiler, or implement a machine learning system, hiring a bunch of well-intentioned smart people with the vague idea that they can probably figure it out as they go is a bad idea. You sometimes need someone with a track record of being able to do the work you need done.

lfowles 8y ago
That someone didn't come fully formed and ready for OS development out of the womb. It's a good argument for looking at track record when hiring for senior positions though. I've been interested in many fields, but can't afford to take time to establish myself in them unless there is also significant interest from a company looking to hire me.
mixmastamyk 8y ago
The market for new OS kernels or compilers is approaching zero.