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> I'm not turning around and saying "guess what, then, I'm the opposite, let's go be racist". incidentally, the people who did decide to do this became the alt

> I'm not turning around and saying "guess what, then, I'm the opposite, let's go be racist". incidentally, the people who did decide to do this became the alt-right.

Sharlin 8y ago
The alt-right as a movement is pretty clearly a counterreaction to the social justice movement, but I’m not sure if it’s so much reasonable people getting radicalized than an already rather unpleasant subset of the population finding a platform – and an echo chamber – for their unpleasantness.
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- mikeash 8y ago
  Many of them blame the left for pushing them away. It’s probably not true, but it makes a convenient excuse for people.
AllegedAlec 8y ago
Alt-right was a term used by grass-roots movements and libertarians long before the term was ever co-opted by other groups. If you mean neo-nazis, just say neo-nazis.
- beaconstudios 8y ago
  I mean neo-nazis, neoreactionaries, neo-fascists, all those types. Basically the subset of /pol/ and stormfront users who genuinely believe what they espouse. At least that's my interpretation of the term.
  - AllegedAlec 8y ago
    Fair enough, that is the interpretation that seems to be pushed a lot these days. I just annoys the hell out of me, since alt-right at some point meant exactly that: someone who was right-wing, but in a way which does not align with any of the standard right wing parties.
    - beaconstudios 8y ago
      I'm aware of the origin, but the meaning of a word is not derived from it's coining but common knowledge in some form similar to (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_knowledge_(logic) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_knowledge_(logic)). It's the same process that caused "hacker" to change its meaning from basically tinkerer to computer security expert (either white hat or black hat).

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> I'm not turning around and saying "guess what, then, I'm the opposite, let's go be racist". incidentally, the people who did decide to do this became the alt

by beaconstudios 8y ago

> I'm not turning around and saying "guess what, then, I'm the opposite, let's go be racist". incidentally, the people who did decide to do this became the alt-right.

Sharlin 8y ago
The alt-right as a movement is pretty clearly a counterreaction to the social justice movement, but I’m not sure if it’s so much reasonable people getting radicalized than an already rather unpleasant subset of the population finding a platform – and an echo chamber – for their unpleasantness.
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- mikeash 8y ago
  Many of them blame the left for pushing them away. It’s probably not true, but it makes a convenient excuse for people.
AllegedAlec 8y ago
Alt-right was a term used by grass-roots movements and libertarians long before the term was ever co-opted by other groups. If you mean neo-nazis, just say neo-nazis.
- beaconstudios 8y ago
  I mean neo-nazis, neoreactionaries, neo-fascists, all those types. Basically the subset of /pol/ and stormfront users who genuinely believe what they espouse. At least that's my interpretation of the term.
  - AllegedAlec 8y ago
    Fair enough, that is the interpretation that seems to be pushed a lot these days. I just annoys the hell out of me, since alt-right at some point meant exactly that: someone who was right-wing, but in a way which does not align with any of the standard right wing parties.
    - beaconstudios 8y ago
      I'm aware of the origin, but the meaning of a word is not derived from it's coining but common knowledge in some form similar to (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_knowledge_(logic) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_knowledge_(logic)). It's the same process that caused "hacker" to change its meaning from basically tinkerer to computer security expert (either white hat or black hat).