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His quotes about political correctness are pretty interesting. Basically that neo-Nazis have tried to brand themselves as “just practical people against excessi
by yashap 8y ago
His quotes about political correctness are pretty interesting. Basically that neo-Nazis have tried to brand themselves as “just practical people against excessive political correctness,” but really that’s just a facade covering their true hate and racism. But now, if you’re ACTUALLY just someone who’s against excessive political correctness, you risk being associated with neo-Nazis.
I’d consider myself pretty left-wing - for compassion towards others, very strongly against racism, sexism and homophobia, very pro immigration and multiculturalism. Still, I do often find current levels of political correctness a bit much - like if someone uses he/she, they’re almost never intentionally being anti-trans, so who cares? Or simply many on the left flying into outrage too easily. But it’s hard to express these views now, because neo-Nazis have been putting up this facade of “just against political correctness,” when in fact there’s real hate behind it. And now many on the left take any deviance from political correctness to indicate a neo-Nazi. Not a great situation, and certainly not one that encourages people to have productive conversations/disagreements.
- tomlock 8y agoHave you personally, in real life, encountered many people who were "outraged" by you using he/she?
- yashap 8y agoIn “real life,” no, but on the internet, yes.
- tomlock 8y agoSo my assumption then since you've said "many on the left" fly to outrage too easily, is that you don't know many people in real life who are on the left. Is that accurate?
- yashap 8y agoVery wrong, I’m quite left wing myself, as are most of my friends/family. I’m really not sure why you’re jumping to these conclusions based on my post. In terms of “real life” vs. internet, people are just a lot more reasonable in person, with minimal outrage. But online, especially on discussion boards, people are constantly flying into outrage.
- tomlock 8y agoWell, you said many on the left leap to outrage, so I assumed you meant that universally, rather than as a subset of left wing people, which you assume are accurately represented by what gets amplified online.
- gwbas1c 8y ago> Basically that neo-Nazis have tried to brand themselves as “just practical people against excessive political correctness,” Don't conflate the alt-right with neo-nazis. Neo-nazis are people who explicitly define themselves as such. Other people who have the mindset that leads to things like nazism don't realize it. They really aren't trying to hide anything; they just have certain fears and concerns that the left isn't empathetic enough to address.
- yashap 8y agoFWIW, I was referring to actual neo-Nazi types, people with a real hatred for other races, who try to put it behind a facade of standard conservatism. Similar to what Linus was talking about here: > Because I may have my reservations about excessive political correctness, but honestly, I absolutely do not want to be seen as being in the same camp as the low-life scum on the internet that think it's OK to be a white nationalist Nazi, and have some truly nasty misogynistic, homophobic or transphobic behaviour. And those people were complaining about too much political correctness too, and in the process just making my public stance look bad.