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Presumably they realize that it would be an unproductive dead end next to the original, and don’t want to become a subject of mockery. They want to make noise a

Presumably they realize that it would be an unproductive dead end next to the original, and don’t want to become a subject of mockery. They want to make noise and rattle their cages, and that’s where their commitment ends. It’s hard to see this extended reaction to something that is at the end of the day incredibly common and banal, as more than trying to suck up the air of publicity while its fresh. After all, people really do care about Linux kernel, so for a short time their “ideas” are given a hearing they would otherwise never seriously be given.

topmonk 8y ago
It's ironic that you think the reason they don't want to create an environment to avoid using a CoC that prohibits mockery is that they are afraid of being mocked. I also don't think this rejection of PC culture is as silly and as small of a movement as you think. But time will tell.
- GW150914 8y ago
  Yeah, time will tell, although to be fair the same was said incessantly by the likes of GamerGate and they’ve just been folded into the larger alt-right and forgotten by most. In a sense, time has already told, and at the end of the day nobody has time for the petulant who frame everything in terms of “sjw’s” and basic human decency as “PC culture.” Tragically that group (having a surfeit of free time) is excellent at amplifying their own noise online, but inevitably it’s recognized as the same old noise, utterly lacking signal, and people move on until the alt-right concocts a new-sounding nontroversy.
  - topmonk 8y ago
    Do you realize that Linus most likely took a break because of this, and you talk about basic human decency? How about supporting the work of intellectual giants, and not worrying so much when their communication style doesn't match your cookie-cutter ideals of what communication should be? How about not taking the term I used, "PC culture", and using it to passive aggressively disparage me as someone petulant who frame everything in terms of "sjw's"? (the term "sjw" in quotes although I never wrote that, but assuredly, this is how you believe I think.) Yes, gamer gate settled down, because the media couldn't keep a controversy going and generate clicks forever. But this is not what I'm talking about. It's people like me, other developers, and now the developers of the linux kernel as well speaking up and trying to reign in this insanity, which you seem blind to. Yea, so I don't believe that your conclusion that this is just a flash in the pan, and will be forgotten in the historical context, is correct, but instead just further evidence that the pot is starting to boil, and will eventually be the beginning of actual correction to this high-handed bullshit that we have been fed from those supporting crap like this CoC.
  - LunaSea 8y ago
    You could say the same about Ayo.js (https://github.com/ayojs/ayo/ https://github.com/ayojs/ayo/) coming from the other side but hey, who's counting.

topmonk 8y ago

It's ironic that you think the reason they don't want to create an environment to avoid using a CoC that prohibits mockery is that they are afraid of being mocked. I also don't think this rejection of PC culture is as silly and as small of a movement as you think. But time will tell.

GW150914 8y ago
Yeah, time will tell, although to be fair the same was said incessantly by the likes of GamerGate and they’ve just been folded into the larger alt-right and forgotten by most. In a sense, time has already told, and at the end of the day nobody has time for the petulant who frame everything in terms of “sjw’s” and basic human decency as “PC culture.” Tragically that group (having a surfeit of free time) is excellent at amplifying their own noise online, but inevitably it’s recognized as the same old noise, utterly lacking signal, and people move on until the alt-right concocts a new-sounding nontroversy.
- topmonk 8y ago
  Do you realize that Linus most likely took a break because of this, and you talk about basic human decency? How about supporting the work of intellectual giants, and not worrying so much when their communication style doesn't match your cookie-cutter ideals of what communication should be? How about not taking the term I used, "PC culture", and using it to passive aggressively disparage me as someone petulant who frame everything in terms of "sjw's"? (the term "sjw" in quotes although I never wrote that, but assuredly, this is how you believe I think.) Yes, gamer gate settled down, because the media couldn't keep a controversy going and generate clicks forever. But this is not what I'm talking about. It's people like me, other developers, and now the developers of the linux kernel as well speaking up and trying to reign in this insanity, which you seem blind to. Yea, so I don't believe that your conclusion that this is just a flash in the pan, and will be forgotten in the historical context, is correct, but instead just further evidence that the pot is starting to boil, and will eventually be the beginning of actual correction to this high-handed bullshit that we have been fed from those supporting crap like this CoC.
- LunaSea 8y ago
  You could say the same about Ayo.js (https://github.com/ayojs/ayo/ https://github.com/ayojs/ayo/) coming from the other side but hey, who's counting.