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_Thank you_. I'm constantly astonished to see folks extolling UBNT gear for anything other than WISP purposes (where it admittedly fits a price profile that's

_Thank you_. I'm constantly astonished to see folks extolling UBNT gear for anything other than WISP purposes (where it admittedly fits a price profile that's unmatchable). Read about the first ~10 months of the ES16-XG DAC support issues. Read about how EdgeRouters could never approach even 40% of line rate with fq_codel running. Read about how they lied about the future of the mFi line for 8+ months before abandoning it entirely. Not to mention the GPL stuff you note, the inconsistent and semi-nonfunctional PoE, and general lack of support or consistency. At some level, you really do get what you pay for. They are great for people who want to set up a "homelab" without learning anything about actual networking, though.

tacoman 8y ago
Or $1000 switches that fail outside of warranty with no replacement power supplies available. https://community.ubnt.com/t5/UniFi-Routing-Switching/Failed-US-24-500W-13-months-of-use-repair-options/m-p/1578936#M15540 https://community.ubnt.com/t5/UniFi-Routing-Switching/Failed...
Serow225 8y ago
Whats the better alternative to fit the needs of a shoestring startup (say 5-10devs)?
- benjaminl 8y ago
  I have had good experience with MikroTik products. The are at a similar price point, but with a less refined interface but a lot more flexibility.
  - jtl999 8y ago
    Mikrotik suffer from a gross amount of "Not invented here" reinventing existing open source protocols such as OpenVPN, a custom sshd and web server, and it shows with their amount of issues (how many years has it taken to add UDP to their OpenVPN server?). In some ways I think their no better then UBNT in some ways. Tell you what. I used to have a Mikrotik CRS125 switch in my home office, and by default if you have a set of ports where one has no VLAN assigned, and the others have untagged VLAN assignmnets, any broadcast traffic on the untagged port(s) without a VLAN leaks to the ports with an untagged VLAN. This isn't well documented in the manual, and to fix it you either disable "Invalid VLAN Forwarding" (I think) and/or move said ports without a VLAN to a VLAN.
    - ausjke 8y ago
      Many of Mikrotik can be loaded with debian or openwrt, its hardware is solid
      - jtl999 8y ago
        My CRS issue suggests otherwise (could just be CRS), but ignoring OpenVPN I haven't had many issues with RouterOS. It's good to have the option though.

tacoman 8y ago

Or $1000 switches that fail outside of warranty with no replacement power supplies available. https://community.ubnt.com/t5/UniFi-Routing-Switching/Failed-US-24-500W-13-months-of-use-repair-options/m-p/1578936#M15540 https://community.ubnt.com/t5/UniFi-Routing-Switching/Failed...

Serow225 8y ago

Whats the better alternative to fit the needs of a shoestring startup (say 5-10devs)?

benjaminl 8y ago
I have had good experience with MikroTik products. The are at a similar price point, but with a less refined interface but a lot more flexibility.
- jtl999 8y ago
  Mikrotik suffer from a gross amount of "Not invented here" reinventing existing open source protocols such as OpenVPN, a custom sshd and web server, and it shows with their amount of issues (how many years has it taken to add UDP to their OpenVPN server?). In some ways I think their no better then UBNT in some ways. Tell you what. I used to have a Mikrotik CRS125 switch in my home office, and by default if you have a set of ports where one has no VLAN assigned, and the others have untagged VLAN assignmnets, any broadcast traffic on the untagged port(s) without a VLAN leaks to the ports with an untagged VLAN. This isn't well documented in the manual, and to fix it you either disable "Invalid VLAN Forwarding" (I think) and/or move said ports without a VLAN to a VLAN.
  - ausjke 8y ago
    Many of Mikrotik can be loaded with debian or openwrt, its hardware is solid
    - jtl999 8y ago
      My CRS issue suggests otherwise (could just be CRS), but ignoring OpenVPN I haven't had many issues with RouterOS. It's good to have the option though.