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last week >Google hushing employees on Chinese search engine https://www.axios.com/google-china-dragonfly-employees-search-engine-20da9795-ff79-4fb9-a8c1-f816

by mzs 8y ago

last week >Google hushing employees on Chinese search engine https://www.axios.com/google-china-dragonfly-employees-search-engine-20da9795-ff79-4fb9-a8c1-f8160b7b8607.html https://www.axios.com/google-china-dragonfly-employees-searc...

TACIXAT 8y ago
>The search engine requires users to log in to use its search features and tracks user's locations. It shares user's history with a Chinese partner. All searches would be connected to a personal phone number and user movements, along with the IP address of the device they used, would be recorded. How is this at all different from the US version?
- blub 8y ago
  In the US you don't get disappeared for your searches (yet).
  - TACIXAT 8y ago
    You kind of do though. [1] The government sends national security letters to tech companies all the time. Interest in certain topics can land you on lists. [2] The US absolutely intercepts anything they can in plain text (and does their best to break the encryption on things that aren't). 1. https://www.zdnet.com/article/top-374-keywords-the-u-s-government-monitors/ https://www.zdnet.com/article/top-374-keywords-the-u-s-gover... 2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XKeyscore https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XKeyscore
- deleted 8y ago
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- mzs 8y ago
  $ curl -A 'Mozilla/5.0 (MSIE; Windows 10)' \ 'https://www.google.com/search?safe=active&q=do+i+need+to+login' 2>/dev/null | \ tr '<>' '\n\n' | grep results a class=gb1 href="https://www.youtube.com/results?gl=US&tab=w1" All results About 1,740,000,000 results $
ehsankia 8y ago
Wouldn't you also get hushed for leaking anything else though? Why should there be an exception here?
- _iyig 8y ago
  These were not leakers, but employees internally sharing a memo which described Google’s plans for China. It’s unclear whether the memo’s contents were (originally, explicitly, and/or retroactively) labeled need-to-know.

by mzs 8y ago

TACIXAT 8y ago

>The search engine requires users to log in to use its search features and tracks user's locations. It shares user's history with a Chinese partner. All searches would be connected to a personal phone number and user movements, along with the IP address of the device they used, would be recorded. How is this at all different from the US version?

blub 8y ago
In the US you don't get disappeared for your searches (yet).
- TACIXAT 8y ago
  You kind of do though. [1] The government sends national security letters to tech companies all the time. Interest in certain topics can land you on lists. [2] The US absolutely intercepts anything they can in plain text (and does their best to break the encryption on things that aren't). 1. https://www.zdnet.com/article/top-374-keywords-the-u-s-government-monitors/ https://www.zdnet.com/article/top-374-keywords-the-u-s-gover... 2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XKeyscore https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XKeyscore
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mzs 8y ago
$ curl -A 'Mozilla/5.0 (MSIE; Windows 10)' \ 'https://www.google.com/search?safe=active&q=do+i+need+to+login' 2>/dev/null | \ tr '<>' '\n\n' | grep results a class=gb1 href="https://www.youtube.com/results?gl=US&tab=w1" All results About 1,740,000,000 results $

ehsankia 8y ago

Wouldn't you also get hushed for leaking anything else though? Why should there be an exception here?

_iyig 8y ago
These were not leakers, but employees internally sharing a memo which described Google’s plans for China. It’s unclear whether the memo’s contents were (originally, explicitly, and/or retroactively) labeled need-to-know.