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With the risk of sounding like a tinfoil conspiracy theorist here: I don't believe that this came from him. This came from outside pressure. Not just the fact t

With the risk of sounding like a tinfoil conspiracy theorist here: I don't believe that this came from him. This came from outside pressure. Not just the fact that parts of his statements where clearly written by someone else, but also the fact that this comes after years of pressure for him to step down. What exactly do you believe that this CoC addresses by the way? I am generally unconvinced that a CoC does anything positive at all, but what is it that you believe that it does?

barrow-rider 8y ago
Why do you think they were written by someone else?
- VonGallifrey 8y ago
  His statement contained both UTF-8 and ascii quote chars. That is at least an indication that parts where written by someone else. At best this was a lawyer checking and providing feedback to his statement. At worst this was someone forcing him to write this. It is also suspicious to me how this change was seemingly not discussed in any way prior and that it was a very sudden change for him.
crispyambulance 8y ago
Given his history, he doesn't seem like someone that is manipulable and I expect he has enough FU money and cred to not be coerced into anything unwillingly. Sometimes the simplest explanation is the best? The way a CoC would work, I think, is hard to quantify. Sure, it may mean that some folks rage-quit on principle, some will continue bad conduct and get themselves kicked out, some will subvert the intent of it one way or another. But if a CoC is "successful", it will mean that gradually you'll start to see folks who were previously under-represented start to contribute. You'll see more diversity and less fear and loathing. Is that a worthy goal? Yes, for many.
- VonGallifrey 8y ago
  His statement came very surprising after years of beeing a different opinion. He just changed overnight I guess? Also his statement contained both UTF-8 and ASCII quote characters which is at least an indication that this was not one person writing it. "Worthy Goal" Has that worked anywhere in practice? Who is underrepresented right now and why? Do we know? The type of diversity archived by a CoC like this is litteraly skin deep anyways and might cost you diversity of thought. We already see "wrong" think beeing excluded.

barrow-rider 8y ago

Why do you think they were written by someone else?

VonGallifrey 8y ago
His statement contained both UTF-8 and ascii quote chars. That is at least an indication that parts where written by someone else. At best this was a lawyer checking and providing feedback to his statement. At worst this was someone forcing him to write this. It is also suspicious to me how this change was seemingly not discussed in any way prior and that it was a very sudden change for him.

crispyambulance 8y ago

Given his history, he doesn't seem like someone that is manipulable and I expect he has enough FU money and cred to not be coerced into anything unwillingly. Sometimes the simplest explanation is the best? The way a CoC would work, I think, is hard to quantify. Sure, it may mean that some folks rage-quit on principle, some will continue bad conduct and get themselves kicked out, some will subvert the intent of it one way or another. But if a CoC is "successful", it will mean that gradually you'll start to see folks who were previously under-represented start to contribute. You'll see more diversity and less fear and loathing. Is that a worthy goal? Yes, for many.

VonGallifrey 8y ago
His statement came very surprising after years of beeing a different opinion. He just changed overnight I guess? Also his statement contained both UTF-8 and ASCII quote characters which is at least an indication that this was not one person writing it. "Worthy Goal" Has that worked anywhere in practice? Who is underrepresented right now and why? Do we know? The type of diversity archived by a CoC like this is litteraly skin deep anyways and might cost you diversity of thought. We already see "wrong" think beeing excluded.