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> I heavily believe we should be supporting creators Agreed. Do you disable your pi-hole on sites like Reddit? They vet their ads so not have any of the malici

by slacka 8y ago

> I heavily believe we should be supporting creators Agreed. Do you disable your pi-hole on sites like Reddit? They vet their ads so not have any of the malicious attributes that you described. All the larger newspagers like WaPo and NYT are also good about this too. I'm all for blocking intrusive or malicious ads. But quality content depends on ad revenue. The author dedicated an entire paragraph on donating to the pi-hole project, but no mention of supporting quality content with subscriptions or unblocking acceptable ads.

Improvotter 8y ago
> Agreed. Do you disable your pi-hole on sites like Reddit? They vet their ads so not have any of the malicious attributes that you described. I've still got ads blocked on reddit because they're so clickbaity as of late. They look like posts from subreddits I'm subscribed to and turn out to be an ad, no thank you.
thieving_magpie 8y ago
I hope more companies offer a paid version of their site that completely removes Advertisements. I cannot stand ads and won't use a site if I can see them. I'm not trying to be a bad guy though, I want to use those sites legitimately. My only option is to not visit them until they offer a compromise.
Semaphor 8y ago
I used to have Reddit whitelisted until they started showing subreddit-targeted ads in other subs. I follow a bunch of cryptocurrency subs and the ads there are… well… as you expect.
- aquadrop 8y ago
  Why is this bad? You follow cryptocurrency subreddit, they show you relevant ad. You follow "warm mittens" subreddit, they show you relevant ad, etc. So why is it a bad thing?
  - dogecoinbase 8y ago
    I can't speak for the GP, but in this case of the cryptocurrency sites/fora I frequent (including topical subreddits), the ads are for idiotic scams. This indicates that whatever vetting they're doing is insufficient, and so they can be safely blocked (specifically -- if they can't be trusted to not display ads for obvious fraud, they can't be trusted to vet ads for other malicious attributes).
    - Semaphor 8y ago
      Yep.
mikestew 8y ago
All the larger newspagers like WaPo and NYT are also good about this too. The ads are not malicious, granted, but in the case of NYT at least they're still "blinky". They get blocked at the Pi-hole now. I do subscribe, however. I'd like to turn the ads back on because I view the NYT to be a quality publication, but I'm not going to have something moving out of the corner of my eye while I try to read the paper.
- freeone3000 8y ago
  What in the world does your subscription pay for, if you still get advertisements on the New York Times?
  - mikestew 8y ago
    Same thing my subscription pays for if I get the dead tree edition: ads sprinkled in with the news. Right or wrong, it's not like there isn't 100 year old precedent for this.
    - michaelt 8y ago
      Right, but if you've already paid I don't see why you'd want to turn ads back on? You've already fulfilled your moral duty to reward them.
noreddit323 8y ago
Reddit is work friendly 4chan. That is, (mostly) not quality content. I stick to a search engine rather than browsing Reddit directly. If what I'm looking for comes up in a relevant Reddit thread, huzzah. I get the contemporary meme is "Agree with great-great-grandpas economics of 'survival of the fittest'." But I feel little obligation to pander to it everywhere it exists. Maybe I'm an odd bird, having grown up in the remote wilderness in the 80s, no TV, growing food and hunting/fishing, and only using money for things like clothing and basic services (water/electricity/phone).
freehunter 8y ago
Do you keep your car doors unlocked when you park in safe neighborhoods? Do you give nice strangers a spare key to your house? Do you sleep in an expensive hotel with the door propped open? Do you keep your password on a sticky note at your desk inside your secure office? Of course not. So why would I disable my security software just because a site I visit hasn't been hacked yet? That's just basic security hygiene.
- pdimitar 8y ago
  Agreed. Furthermore, nothing guarantees that them being good actors now won't be changed when they get acquired by a media giant. Policy and culture can and have changed overnight in organizations after acquisition. It's the same as with Troy's argument about good browser extensions. Yes they are good today but them being bought for 5 figures and the personal data harvested does not make the news and the users are clueless about it. I rather just not take the risk.
FridgeSeal 8y ago
Ads on Reddit used to be alright, but since the advent of their dumpster fire of a redesign, their ads have turned into block worthy material.

by slacka 8y ago

Improvotter 8y ago

> Agreed. Do you disable your pi-hole on sites like Reddit? They vet their ads so not have any of the malicious attributes that you described. I've still got ads blocked on reddit because they're so clickbaity as of late. They look like posts from subreddits I'm subscribed to and turn out to be an ad, no thank you.

thieving_magpie 8y ago

I hope more companies offer a paid version of their site that completely removes Advertisements. I cannot stand ads and won't use a site if I can see them. I'm not trying to be a bad guy though, I want to use those sites legitimately. My only option is to not visit them until they offer a compromise.

Semaphor 8y ago

I used to have Reddit whitelisted until they started showing subreddit-targeted ads in other subs. I follow a bunch of cryptocurrency subs and the ads there are… well… as you expect.

aquadrop 8y ago
Why is this bad? You follow cryptocurrency subreddit, they show you relevant ad. You follow "warm mittens" subreddit, they show you relevant ad, etc. So why is it a bad thing?
- dogecoinbase 8y ago
  I can't speak for the GP, but in this case of the cryptocurrency sites/fora I frequent (including topical subreddits), the ads are for idiotic scams. This indicates that whatever vetting they're doing is insufficient, and so they can be safely blocked (specifically -- if they can't be trusted to not display ads for obvious fraud, they can't be trusted to vet ads for other malicious attributes).
  - Semaphor 8y ago
    Yep.

mikestew 8y ago

All the larger newspagers like WaPo and NYT are also good about this too. The ads are not malicious, granted, but in the case of NYT at least they're still "blinky". They get blocked at the Pi-hole now. I do subscribe, however. I'd like to turn the ads back on because I view the NYT to be a quality publication, but I'm not going to have something moving out of the corner of my eye while I try to read the paper.

freeone3000 8y ago
What in the world does your subscription pay for, if you still get advertisements on the New York Times?
- mikestew 8y ago
  Same thing my subscription pays for if I get the dead tree edition: ads sprinkled in with the news. Right or wrong, it's not like there isn't 100 year old precedent for this.
  - michaelt 8y ago
    Right, but if you've already paid I don't see why you'd want to turn ads back on? You've already fulfilled your moral duty to reward them.

noreddit323 8y ago

Reddit is work friendly 4chan. That is, (mostly) not quality content. I stick to a search engine rather than browsing Reddit directly. If what I'm looking for comes up in a relevant Reddit thread, huzzah. I get the contemporary meme is "Agree with great-great-grandpas economics of 'survival of the fittest'." But I feel little obligation to pander to it everywhere it exists. Maybe I'm an odd bird, having grown up in the remote wilderness in the 80s, no TV, growing food and hunting/fishing, and only using money for things like clothing and basic services (water/electricity/phone).

freehunter 8y ago

Do you keep your car doors unlocked when you park in safe neighborhoods? Do you give nice strangers a spare key to your house? Do you sleep in an expensive hotel with the door propped open? Do you keep your password on a sticky note at your desk inside your secure office? Of course not. So why would I disable my security software just because a site I visit hasn't been hacked yet? That's just basic security hygiene.

pdimitar 8y ago
Agreed. Furthermore, nothing guarantees that them being good actors now won't be changed when they get acquired by a media giant. Policy and culture can and have changed overnight in organizations after acquisition. It's the same as with Troy's argument about good browser extensions. Yes they are good today but them being bought for 5 figures and the personal data harvested does not make the news and the users are clueless about it. I rather just not take the risk.

FridgeSeal 8y ago

Ads on Reddit used to be alright, but since the advent of their dumpster fire of a redesign, their ads have turned into block worthy material.