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That's like how the EU Cookie law gives incentive to enable cookies: Disable cookies? See annoying useless cookie warnings all the time everywhere! You have t
by Aardwolf 8y ago
That's like how the EU Cookie law gives incentive to enable cookies:
Disable cookies? See annoying useless cookie warnings all the time everywhere!
You have to enable cookies to make it remember not to spam you with the warnings
EDIT: and good point in the article, one may wonder how making it easier to request data helps to improve privacy
- icebraining 8y agoNo. Cookies required to do something the user asked do not require consent. This is solely on the lazy and/or dishonest webdevs. See http://ec.europa.eu/ipg/basics/legal/cookies/index_en.htm#section_2 http://ec.europa.eu/ipg/basics/legal/cookies/index_en.htm#se...
- Aardwolf 8y agoBefore the cookie law websites did not have annoying useless cookie popups though, so it's an unintended consequence
- s73v3r_ 8y agoNo, it's more the bratty kid on the playground who isn't getting their way, so they're throwing a fit and threatening to take their ball and go home.
- yarrel 8y agoAvoiding big fines isn't throwing a fit.
- true_religion 8y agoI agree. For all that people say there is nothing to worry about, these are fines that would be levied by foreign governments so a company may not really have insight to how likely it is they will be fined. It's a lot easier for a government to fine a foreign corp than to fine a local one whose workers are all voters and tax payers.
- Aardwolf 8y agoThere's a lot of bratty kids then, most of the articles linked to by hacker news are on sites with cookie warnings for example. Not sure if those are visible in the US, but in the EU they are, and they are very annoying
- Aengeuad 8y agoMost bigger websites and websites hosted in EU did have useless cookie warnings that they didn't need before the GDPR.
- misabon 8y agoYeah, dude, if I know users are going to not penalize me for this and the government is going to fine me 250k a day for it, I’m going to put it up. That isn’t lazy. That’s just time optimization. No one’s going to fine me for blanket adding the feature so that’s fine.
- harshreality 8y agoYou lose money when everyone browsing in incognito/tor/cookie-blocking sessions gets the damned cookie warning every visit, and eventually tires of your site's nagging and goes somewhere else. Or maybe you don't, maybe those users had 17 ad blockers and you don't lose a dime, but it certainly hurts your company's goodwill to have less eyeballs. If users don't bounce, is that based on short-term or long-term research?
- misabon 8y agoUsers don’t behave that way. I don’t care about the incognito dudes. Cookie warnings are so passé that all users have trained themselves to always accept. That’s what my user research shows. Fears of bounces over cookie warnings are overstated. Users do not care.
- daveFNbuck 8y agoIf a site I use regularly has an annoying cookie warning, I just use uBlock Origin's element picker to hide it. I wonder how narrow the set of users are who care enough to block cookies but can't easily disable the warning.