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The choice is about who collects all the data from all the cams and things around you - The Party (China), The Gov (UK), or the Corporations (US).

by snaky 8y ago

ehnto 8y ago
Why not all three? Everyone has showed up to the data party in the US as far as I can tell. Even the political parties are independently hoovering up data for their campaign strategies.
- snaky 8y ago
  Well, the cooperation is a key. > During the 2012 campaign, Barack Obama’s reelection team had an underappreciated asset: Google’s executive chairman, Eric Schmidt. He helped recruit talent, choose technology, and coach the campaign manager, Jim Messina, on the finer points of leading a large organization. “On election night he was in our boiler room in Chicago,” says David Plouffe, then a senior White House adviser. Schmidt had a particular affinity for a group of engineers and statisticians tucked away beneath a disco ball in a darkened corner of the office known as “the Cave.” The data analytics team, led by 30-year-old Dan Wagner, is credited with producing Obama’s surprising 5 million-vote margin of victory. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2013-05-30/googles-eric-schmidt-invests-in-obamas-big-data-brains https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2013-05-30/googles-e...
  - gm-conspiracy 8y ago
    That doesn't explain the 10 million vote margin of victory for Obama in 2008.
wongarsu 8y ago
Or a corporation that is legally required to delete the footage a few days later and can only process it to resolve customer complaints and to bill damaged cars (EU).
whatshisface 8y ago
In the US the government tracks everybody, and they're probably better at it than in the UK. Remember Snowden? He didn't work at Google. Both the government and opportunistic companies track everything they can.
- ionised 8y ago
  To be fair, Snowden said that the UK was collecting far more information on its own people than the US was. He already said the UKs surveillance apparatus was terrifying in comparison.

The choice is about who collects all the data from all the cams and things around you - The Party (China), The Gov (UK), or the Corporations (US).

by snaky 8y ago

The choice is about who collects all the data from all the cams and things around you - The Party (China), The Gov (UK), or the Corporations (US).

ehnto 8y ago

Why not all three? Everyone has showed up to the data party in the US as far as I can tell. Even the political parties are independently hoovering up data for their campaign strategies.

snaky 8y ago
Well, the cooperation is a key. > During the 2012 campaign, Barack Obama’s reelection team had an underappreciated asset: Google’s executive chairman, Eric Schmidt. He helped recruit talent, choose technology, and coach the campaign manager, Jim Messina, on the finer points of leading a large organization. “On election night he was in our boiler room in Chicago,” says David Plouffe, then a senior White House adviser. Schmidt had a particular affinity for a group of engineers and statisticians tucked away beneath a disco ball in a darkened corner of the office known as “the Cave.” The data analytics team, led by 30-year-old Dan Wagner, is credited with producing Obama’s surprising 5 million-vote margin of victory. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2013-05-30/googles-eric-schmidt-invests-in-obamas-big-data-brains https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2013-05-30/googles-e...
- gm-conspiracy 8y ago
  That doesn't explain the 10 million vote margin of victory for Obama in 2008.

wongarsu 8y ago

Or a corporation that is legally required to delete the footage a few days later and can only process it to resolve customer complaints and to bill damaged cars (EU).

whatshisface 8y ago

In the US the government tracks everybody, and they're probably better at it than in the UK. Remember Snowden? He didn't work at Google. Both the government and opportunistic companies track everything they can.

ionised 8y ago
To be fair, Snowden said that the UK was collecting far more information on its own people than the US was. He already said the UKs surveillance apparatus was terrifying in comparison.