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I'm not missing anything. You can keep moving the goal posts all you want. The conversation was about applets, running in a web browser, and how a browser AND

I'm not missing anything. You can keep moving the goal posts all you want. The conversation was about applets, running in a web browser, and how a browser AND the the JVM's available at Java's release, did or didn't require an operating system to run. Embedded Java is not "applets". Nobody is denying that there is billions of devices running client side Java code. https://www.v3.co.uk/v3-uk/news/2443810/oracle-signals-the-end-of-java-applet-support-for-browsers https://www.v3.co.uk/v3-uk/news/2443810/oracle-signals-the-e...

pjmlp 8y ago
> The web browser/JVM certainly needed an operating system to run, and by extension the applets did too. Not moving goal post at all "JVM certainly needed an operating system to run".
- nineteen999 8y ago
  It certainly did at the time that Java was released, which was the context I was commenting in (ie. "needed", not "needs") - the original HotJava browser (1994) or Netscape 2.x (1995) with builtin Java applet support, before it was later moved to a plugin. JavaOS wasn't released until later (1996). And Wikipedia classifies it as an "operating system with a Java virtual machine as a fundamental component". The clue is in the name.