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Yes, that starts with "leaving it". Though some found my comment above irritating, the more people use these apps or try to make it "their way", these corps won

Yes, that starts with "leaving it". Though some found my comment above irritating, the more people use these apps or try to make it "their way", these corps won't go anywhere. Yes, either you take it, or leave it. Imagine everyone leaving google today. They can't make money. People made them rich, people can take them down. If genpop doesn't understand, you have to find your own ways to navigate thru the internet because google won't go away anytime soon. I would love to hear your opinion about how to take google down, without making people "leave it".

gaius 8y ago
Yes, either you take it, or leave it That is a false dilemma, because there are more than two choices. To many of us, the third option is the one we choose.
axiometry 8y ago
Or you can take some and leave some via regulation.
ax0ar 8y ago
>Yes, that starts with "leaving it" You're right, but the percentage of Google users aware of how evil they are is probably less than 0.5%. An overwhelmingly large percentage of users won't care about what could happen as long as nothing happens directly affecting them. Mass surveillance companies like Google, Facebook know this and take advantage of it. Technology activists aren't strong enough to start a wave that would lead to people abandoning these evil corps.. Also, as others mentioned, they eat up all competition.. so there aren't really any good options left apart from Google products in areas they compete.
- superflyguy 8y ago
  "You're right, but the percentage of Google users aware of how evil they are is probably less than 0.5%." Not unaware of, just don't care. Most people aren't persnickety, anal, border line autistic nerds so Google/Facebook knowing who they know or where they are, when they're using software to tell their friends where they are or are using maps to literally work out where they are right now is just not an issue. If you really don't want to be tracked you shouldn't have a smartphone, not worry yourself with what Vn+0.1 of an app is doing which Vn wasn't.
  - yjftsjthsd-h 8y ago
    > Most people aren't persnickety, anal, border line autistic nerds so Google/Facebook knowing who they know or where they are, when they're using software to tell their friends where they are or are using maps to literally work out where they are right now is just not an issue. Please don't insult people for caring about privacy.
    - superflyguy 8y ago
      Not "caring about privacy"; having retarded notions that you can walk around with a tracking device like one might expect a criminal be forced to carry and somehow still have privacy by deleting this cookie or logging out of that service.

gaius 8y ago

Yes, either you take it, or leave it That is a false dilemma, because there are more than two choices. To many of us, the third option is the one we choose.

axiometry 8y ago

Or you can take some and leave some via regulation.

ax0ar 8y ago

>Yes, that starts with "leaving it" You're right, but the percentage of Google users aware of how evil they are is probably less than 0.5%. An overwhelmingly large percentage of users won't care about what could happen as long as nothing happens directly affecting them. Mass surveillance companies like Google, Facebook know this and take advantage of it. Technology activists aren't strong enough to start a wave that would lead to people abandoning these evil corps.. Also, as others mentioned, they eat up all competition.. so there aren't really any good options left apart from Google products in areas they compete.

superflyguy 8y ago
"You're right, but the percentage of Google users aware of how evil they are is probably less than 0.5%." Not unaware of, just don't care. Most people aren't persnickety, anal, border line autistic nerds so Google/Facebook knowing who they know or where they are, when they're using software to tell their friends where they are or are using maps to literally work out where they are right now is just not an issue. If you really don't want to be tracked you shouldn't have a smartphone, not worry yourself with what Vn+0.1 of an app is doing which Vn wasn't.
- yjftsjthsd-h 8y ago
  > Most people aren't persnickety, anal, border line autistic nerds so Google/Facebook knowing who they know or where they are, when they're using software to tell their friends where they are or are using maps to literally work out where they are right now is just not an issue. Please don't insult people for caring about privacy.
  - superflyguy 8y ago
    Not "caring about privacy"; having retarded notions that you can walk around with a tracking device like one might expect a criminal be forced to carry and somehow still have privacy by deleting this cookie or logging out of that service.