Firstly, I have to agree, this marketing on a 11 after a few too many red bulls. But I think you aren't considering what these services were at the time, when

Firstly, I have to agree, this marketing on a 11 after a few too many red bulls. But I think you aren't considering what these services were at the time, when they first entered the market. Fogbugz, Manuscript and Kiln were some of the first to market quality web based products that were approachable to startups. Granted they were all over shadowed in time, but their contributions, by simply pushing concepts that not many others were at the time certainly deserves them some credit.