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IANAL. If you are, why don't we set up a call. I'll explain it to you and you can tell me where I'm wrong. Then I won't tell a misleading story like this again.

IANAL. If you are, why don't we set up a call. I'll explain it to you and you can tell me where I'm wrong. Then I won't tell a misleading story like this again. I can only relate to you what I heard. I viewed what happened as criminal. The company would have viewed it as covered under our contract. Nothing to see here, folks! I'm guessing the AG wouldn't take up a complex legal criminal case involving tech if it looked like there was a good chance it could end up a civil matter. And so we're still in civil court. I tried proposing several different remedies during our talk. What if I sued by myself? It might work. I might get part of the monies back. Or not. In either case it'd take a while. What if I went to the press? If there's no proof of anything, and I don't have a lawyer, I could be getting into risky legal territory. It went on like this for a few minutes. Admittedly, not being an attorney, I probably forgot to mention a lot of things. I can assure you this happened. And I'm happy to explain it to anybody that would like to hear it off-the-record. It's a fucked-up situation and I would love more than anything else for there to be some remedy like you're describing. It's just not worth my time, or the time of the attorney I consulted, to chase down a remedy that's only going to be a few thousand bucks. Situations like this are why you have class action suits in the first place. Hell, I'll give you the name of the attorney and you can call and ask him.

gamblor956 8y ago
I am a lawyer but I charge $600/hour for my services. I do not offer free consults or legal advice. (What I've offered so far, including this post, doesn't constitute legal advice, which is the application of law to the specific facts of a particular case. Speaking in generalities doesn't result in a professional relationship. ) CA provides an online form for your type of complaint: https://oag.ca.gov/contact/consumer-complaint-against-business-or-company https://oag.ca.gov/contact/consumer-complaint-against-busine... If you would prefer to call them directly it's best to call your local CA office (numbers available on their website) and they'll connect you to the appropriate person. (I recommend this as they respond to you immediately; the form can take several weeks.) I'm guessing the AG wouldn't take up a complex legal criminal case involving tech if it looked like there was a good chance it could end up a civil matter. And so we're still in civil court. I'm not sure why you think this. What you described sounds like fraud, which is pretty simple from a legal perspective to investigate and prosecute at the scale you described. And the State AG would never turn down a criminal case just because they could also go after them civilly, as the criminal case strengthens their hand in the civil case.
- DanielBMarkham 8y ago
  Maybe I'm not being clear enough. I have dropped this issue as it is not worth my time. I'm simply relaying what another $600/hour professional told me as best as I can. I apologize if I misrepresented any part of what that guy said. Since both you and the attorney I contacted seem to enjoy this legal stuff, if you have any confusion over what I've related, you two are welcome to chat. I'm happy to hook you up. Coming online and casting doubt on whether my story is true or not doesn't seem to be a very good use of either of our time either, and this is the reason I replied to you in the first place, not for some free legal consultation, online or otherwise. I'm happy to adjust my story if there's any part any HN commenter found that was in error. I've done the best I can to relate it. As far as what I would think and why, I was just guessing. What I think is fraud or a civil matter or the prosecutorial leanings of my state AG? That and ten bucks will get you a nice cup of coffee. This kind of thing was the entire reason I spent an entire morning talking to the other bozo. I'm not a California resident. I appreciate your taking the time to reply here. I'm not sure either of us educated any of the other readers. My entire point was to offer to correct any errors in my story. I apologize to the rest of the forum that this line of discussion ended up rather pointless. My offer still stands. I have no desire to relate stories that are untrue, online or otherwise. If anybody has any questions, I am happy to do what I can to clear them up.

gamblor956 8y ago

I am a lawyer but I charge $600/hour for my services. I do not offer free consults or legal advice. (What I've offered so far, including this post, doesn't constitute legal advice, which is the application of law to the specific facts of a particular case. Speaking in generalities doesn't result in a professional relationship. ) CA provides an online form for your type of complaint: https://oag.ca.gov/contact/consumer-complaint-against-business-or-company https://oag.ca.gov/contact/consumer-complaint-against-busine... If you would prefer to call them directly it's best to call your local CA office (numbers available on their website) and they'll connect you to the appropriate person. (I recommend this as they respond to you immediately; the form can take several weeks.) I'm guessing the AG wouldn't take up a complex legal criminal case involving tech if it looked like there was a good chance it could end up a civil matter. And so we're still in civil court. I'm not sure why you think this. What you described sounds like fraud, which is pretty simple from a legal perspective to investigate and prosecute at the scale you described. And the State AG would never turn down a criminal case just because they could also go after them civilly, as the criminal case strengthens their hand in the civil case.

DanielBMarkham 8y ago
Maybe I'm not being clear enough. I have dropped this issue as it is not worth my time. I'm simply relaying what another $600/hour professional told me as best as I can. I apologize if I misrepresented any part of what that guy said. Since both you and the attorney I contacted seem to enjoy this legal stuff, if you have any confusion over what I've related, you two are welcome to chat. I'm happy to hook you up. Coming online and casting doubt on whether my story is true or not doesn't seem to be a very good use of either of our time either, and this is the reason I replied to you in the first place, not for some free legal consultation, online or otherwise. I'm happy to adjust my story if there's any part any HN commenter found that was in error. I've done the best I can to relate it. As far as what I would think and why, I was just guessing. What I think is fraud or a civil matter or the prosecutorial leanings of my state AG? That and ten bucks will get you a nice cup of coffee. This kind of thing was the entire reason I spent an entire morning talking to the other bozo. I'm not a California resident. I appreciate your taking the time to reply here. I'm not sure either of us educated any of the other readers. My entire point was to offer to correct any errors in my story. I apologize to the rest of the forum that this line of discussion ended up rather pointless. My offer still stands. I have no desire to relate stories that are untrue, online or otherwise. If anybody has any questions, I am happy to do what I can to clear them up.