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I think the biggest challenge for France in regard to startup is that society is hierarchical. I think many of the other concerns stem from that. Hierarchies ma

by mhjas 8y ago

I think the biggest challenge for France in regard to startup is that society is hierarchical. I think many of the other concerns stem from that. Hierarchies makes society about ranking, which kills startup since startups are essentially about climbing the class ladder as a company (from small business to fortune 500). Pretty much all startup "hubs" are either "new world" were there weren't necessarily a lot of established players already and/or relatively egalitarian.

presscast 8y ago
>I think the biggest challenge for France in regard to startup is that society is hierarchical Agreed. At this point, I usually like to point out that hierarchical societies have their advantages. A huge asset for France is it's elite schools -- the "Grandes Écoles". These schools are outstanding in a way that few Americans can even fathom, and their students are educated to a point that I didn't think possible until moving to Paris. If you want the best engineers in the world, hire out of those schools. As a bonus, they aren't the sort to hop between jobs.
- hrktb 8y ago
  I have mixed feelings about the grandes ecoles. Brilliant people get there and you don’t get in and out without serious grit, a decent mind and a taste for effort. But I tink that’s really what it is. The best engineers I have seen didn’t care for ‘burning’ years of their life in half military schools or old institutions, they went directly to CS courses to get a diploma faster and go abroad or start their own project. Put another way, people who don’t care about prestige and having a super broad education don’t go there, and in our field I tink a ton of super talented people fit that description.
  - thatfrenchguy 8y ago
    "Put another way, people who don’t care about prestige and having a super broad education don’t go there, and in our field I tink a ton of super talented people fit that description." But just like Americans go to ranked universities, as a student you learn how to play the game and go to the best (fit) one you can enter.
  - presscast 8y ago
    >I have mixed feelings about the grandes ecoles. To be fair, so do I, and I think you make a good point. The profile you can expect from a GE is: - Extremely well-learned. They know a lot of stuff. - Solutions implemented by GE engineeres will be principled, rather than ad-hoc. - Not self-starters. They very much have an employee mindset. And to be faire, there are plenty of outstanding employees (not to mention freelancers or entrepreneurs) who haven't gone through a Grande École. Let me put it another way: you may not need a GE-graduate to build the next iPod, but you certainly need them for the next EuroTunnel.

by mhjas 8y ago

presscast 8y ago

>I think the biggest challenge for France in regard to startup is that society is hierarchical Agreed. At this point, I usually like to point out that hierarchical societies have their advantages. A huge asset for France is it's elite schools -- the "Grandes Écoles". These schools are outstanding in a way that few Americans can even fathom, and their students are educated to a point that I didn't think possible until moving to Paris. If you want the best engineers in the world, hire out of those schools. As a bonus, they aren't the sort to hop between jobs.

hrktb 8y ago
I have mixed feelings about the grandes ecoles. Brilliant people get there and you don’t get in and out without serious grit, a decent mind and a taste for effort. But I tink that’s really what it is. The best engineers I have seen didn’t care for ‘burning’ years of their life in half military schools or old institutions, they went directly to CS courses to get a diploma faster and go abroad or start their own project. Put another way, people who don’t care about prestige and having a super broad education don’t go there, and in our field I tink a ton of super talented people fit that description.
- thatfrenchguy 8y ago
  "Put another way, people who don’t care about prestige and having a super broad education don’t go there, and in our field I tink a ton of super talented people fit that description." But just like Americans go to ranked universities, as a student you learn how to play the game and go to the best (fit) one you can enter.
- presscast 8y ago
  >I have mixed feelings about the grandes ecoles. To be fair, so do I, and I think you make a good point. The profile you can expect from a GE is: - Extremely well-learned. They know a lot of stuff. - Solutions implemented by GE engineeres will be principled, rather than ad-hoc. - Not self-starters. They very much have an employee mindset. And to be faire, there are plenty of outstanding employees (not to mention freelancers or entrepreneurs) who haven't gone through a Grande École. Let me put it another way: you may not need a GE-graduate to build the next iPod, but you certainly need them for the next EuroTunnel.