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That's an interesting picture. I took those numbers and compared them to Wikipedia's purchasing-power adjusted average wage figures for 2017 at https://en.wikip

by zwp 8y ago

That's an interesting picture. I took those numbers and compared them to Wikipedia's purchasing-power adjusted average wage figures for 2017 at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_average_wage https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_average_w.... Here are the results sorted by ratio of average developer salary to average salary in each country. You get the best bang for your buck in .il and .fr doesn't (quite) get the wooden spoon. Country Ratio dev:avg Netherlands 0.851031639465174 France 0.891326705519369 Canada 0.944941413632355 Finland 1.00083791080905 Australia 1.01779098644302 Germany 1.05075128717033 New Zealand 1.07384561596284 UK 1.18906064209275 Sweden 1.29738400207581 Norway 1.3082871202062 Switzerland 1.31657113498065 Denmark 1.34069094159251 USA 1.48617853958189 Israel 1.85359454758035

chrstphrhrt 8y ago
Quite informative, thanks.
jkaplowitz 8y ago
I'd be interested to see the Canada numbers broken down more locally. I'm quite sure that my current home city of Montreal would look a lot healthier than Vancouver, for example.
roel_v 8y ago
What does this table say? I'm not convinced you can just divide real salaries by PP adjusted numbers and get a meaningful result of the kind you are claiming. Isn't this table just sorted by the PP adjustment factor, i.e. an inverse ranking of the highest PP?
- zwp 8y ago
  "Isn't this table just sorted by the PP adjustment factor" No, it isn't, but I do think you're right in that I should have used the nominal wages. I found the original article and that does not appear to be purchasing-power adjusted: https://www.daxx.com/article/it-salaries-software-developer-trends-2018 https://www.daxx.com/article/it-salaries-software-developer-... Using the nominal wages gives the below, with France now in the middle of the list: Country Ratio dev:avg Australia 0.81 Netherlands 0.85 Canada 0.90 New Zealand 0.92 Finland 0.92 France 0.92 Switzerland 0.93 Norway 1.02 Denmark 1.05 Germany 1.12 UK 1.15 Sweden 1.15 USA 1.49 Israel 1.53 Whether or not this is a "meaningful result" is still debatable but I'd like to think it gives us something approaching a "developer appreciation metric".

by zwp 8y ago

chrstphrhrt 8y ago

Quite informative, thanks.

jkaplowitz 8y ago

I'd be interested to see the Canada numbers broken down more locally. I'm quite sure that my current home city of Montreal would look a lot healthier than Vancouver, for example.

roel_v 8y ago

What does this table say? I'm not convinced you can just divide real salaries by PP adjusted numbers and get a meaningful result of the kind you are claiming. Isn't this table just sorted by the PP adjustment factor, i.e. an inverse ranking of the highest PP?

zwp 8y ago
"Isn't this table just sorted by the PP adjustment factor" No, it isn't, but I do think you're right in that I should have used the nominal wages. I found the original article and that does not appear to be purchasing-power adjusted: https://www.daxx.com/article/it-salaries-software-developer-trends-2018 https://www.daxx.com/article/it-salaries-software-developer-... Using the nominal wages gives the below, with France now in the middle of the list: Country Ratio dev:avg Australia 0.81 Netherlands 0.85 Canada 0.90 New Zealand 0.92 Finland 0.92 France 0.92 Switzerland 0.93 Norway 1.02 Denmark 1.05 Germany 1.12 UK 1.15 Sweden 1.15 USA 1.49 Israel 1.53 Whether or not this is a "meaningful result" is still debatable but I'd like to think it gives us something approaching a "developer appreciation metric".