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It's also healthy to cut back on (red) meat consumption. NHS recommends 70g/day. One proper steak means no meat for the rest of the week. https://www.nhs.uk/li

by yread 8y ago

It's also healthy to cut back on (red) meat consumption. NHS recommends 70g/day. One proper steak means no meat for the rest of the week. https://www.nhs.uk/live-well/eat-well/meat-nutrition/#how-much-red-and-processed-meat-should-we-eat https://www.nhs.uk/live-well/eat-well/meat-nutrition/#how-mu...

naasking 8y ago
Actually, later studies found that red meat isn't the issue per se, it's processed red meat that is the real culprit. So basically, raw ingredients of any kind are good to eat, processed food is not so good for you.
hultner 8y ago
I've been trying to keep my average under 90g/day since about 2010 and most weeks nowadays I average half that. However I wouldn't call 500g a proper steak, only time I've seen stakes at that size is as novalty items on menus of burger/grill joints, and even then very rarely.
- jamie_ca 8y ago
  Yeah, when we get steak for dinners, we wind up with 500-600g for a family of four. And that's 2-3 cuts.
simonsarris 8y ago
Why would you think that is true? Here in the USA we eat less red meat than we did 45 years ago, and are way less healthy. NHS and the USDA make all kinds of boneheaded dietary prescriptions that are terrible (eat lots of grains, eat trans fats, avoid eggs, avoid butter). Since the 1970s, at least: * Americans eat less red meat and more white meat than they used to in the 70's. * Americans get fewer calories total from meat than they used to, yet eat way more plant material (hint: carbs) than ever before. https://imgur.com/a/LgqUMJz https://imgur.com/a/LgqUMJz * Americans and Brits are way more overweight than ever before, with the obesity "trend" starting in the late 70s or early 80s. Obesity should concern you, it kills 10 times the people that the US opioid epidemic does (300K deaths/year vs 30K deaths/year), but culture makes it much harder to take 10 times as seriously. Or talk about at all for that matter. What's a minute increase in bowel cancer comparatively? Why fear (unprocessed) red meat in 2018, and why on earth listen to the NHS on the subject? Are people who listen to NHS guidelines actually healthier than people in the 1970's, who ate more red meat?
- cageface 8y ago
  Consumption of chicken and cheese has gone through the roof. Consumption of sweeteners and simple carbs has gone done. Do the math.

by yread 8y ago

naasking 8y ago

Actually, later studies found that red meat isn't the issue per se, it's processed red meat that is the real culprit. So basically, raw ingredients of any kind are good to eat, processed food is not so good for you.

hultner 8y ago

I've been trying to keep my average under 90g/day since about 2010 and most weeks nowadays I average half that. However I wouldn't call 500g a proper steak, only time I've seen stakes at that size is as novalty items on menus of burger/grill joints, and even then very rarely.

jamie_ca 8y ago
Yeah, when we get steak for dinners, we wind up with 500-600g for a family of four. And that's 2-3 cuts.

simonsarris 8y ago

Why would you think that is true? Here in the USA we eat less red meat than we did 45 years ago, and are way less healthy. NHS and the USDA make all kinds of boneheaded dietary prescriptions that are terrible (eat lots of grains, eat trans fats, avoid eggs, avoid butter). Since the 1970s, at least: * Americans eat less red meat and more white meat than they used to in the 70's. * Americans get fewer calories total from meat than they used to, yet eat way more plant material (hint: carbs) than ever before. https://imgur.com/a/LgqUMJz https://imgur.com/a/LgqUMJz * Americans and Brits are way more overweight than ever before, with the obesity "trend" starting in the late 70s or early 80s. Obesity should concern you, it kills 10 times the people that the US opioid epidemic does (300K deaths/year vs 30K deaths/year), but culture makes it much harder to take 10 times as seriously. Or talk about at all for that matter. What's a minute increase in bowel cancer comparatively? Why fear (unprocessed) red meat in 2018, and why on earth listen to the NHS on the subject? Are people who listen to NHS guidelines actually healthier than people in the 1970's, who ate more red meat?

cageface 8y ago
Consumption of chicken and cheese has gone through the roof. Consumption of sweeteners and simple carbs has gone done. Do the math.