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The reality is you don't have a will, just variables & events creating the person you are in the current moment.
by intralizee 8y ago
The reality is you don't have a will, just variables & events creating the person you are in the current moment.
- fb03 8y agoyou forgot an increasing pool of state that cannot ever be captured in a reproducible way.
- intralizee 8y agoSuch a state doesn't make a person have will over themselves.
- fb03 8y agoit helps form what the person understands as his/her own 'free will'. the Free Will (TM) state machine uses this constantly updated training data to bias its decisions throughout its shelf life. so there are rules (like you stated) but there is also a huge set of data that alters the rule's parameters, to such extent that some times, new rules are created and old ones get discarded.
- intralizee 8y agoHow does it help when free will does not exist?
- fb03 8y agoyou are right. being merely a system to weigh chaos, it only helps the 'notion' free will. free will in itself will never be provable.
- tudelo 8y agoGiven that you would say that everything in our life is determined at birth? We just don't have enough knowledge to fast forward the simulation?
- intralizee 8y ago"Given that you would say that everything in our life is determined at birth? We just don't have enough knowledge to fast forward the simulation?" Yes
- odnes 8y agoThe opposite of free will is not necessarily pre-determination. It's probably the case that events proceed randomly at atomic levels and this randomness snowballs into more macro events (e.g. neurons discharging).
- intralizee 8y agoStill pre-determination if you have a system that is deterministic but influenced from an outside force and the outside force executing the alterations is not in the system being influenced.
- tudelo 8y agoIt seems to me that the system you describe lacks free will and is pre-determined by a causal action.
- adrianN 8y agoThe universe isn't deterministic as far as we know, so that's probably not right. But if you change it to something that is compatible with the predictions that can be made using quantum mechanics then that's most likely the truth.
- intralizee 8y agoQuantum mechanics may possibly be a case of observing determinism but we assume randomness by our current technology. Everything else observable has been fitting the deterministic modal. If a random variable were to be added to a person's mind as metaphorically similar to quantum mechanics, it would result in factoring into the future events of the person and similar to all the other variables & events a person experiences.
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- Symmetry 8y agoThat's sort of like saying you don't have a hand, just a palm and some fingers.
- collyw 8y agoIs this proven? I thought it was still one of the great debates in philosophy?