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> very hard to get right elsewhere I wrote substantial systems before there were any Java IDEs. Nothing hard about it. Write a lot of code and it's easy. If

> very hard to get right elsewhere I wrote substantial systems before there were any Java IDEs. Nothing hard about it. Write a lot of code and it's easy. If that disturbs you I'm sorry, but you should allow that there are people with more skill than perhaps you've been exposed to.

balladeer 8y ago
No, it doesn't disturb me at all. At work and among friends there are people who have more skills than I am exposed to and I get to learn a lot from them. However none of them ever advocate not using an IDE or claim not needing an IDE. In fact a lot of them use one or the other. I used to write in Vim (C) when I worked for that South Korean giant. After that I moved to Java/Android and I wouldn't get back to those days of Vim/C for anything. So I think it comes down to choice. The thing is GP commenter mentioned "masochism" and now I see the point.